Ok, heres another idea What if we could get a timing retard unit to have 2 diff settings we could switch from. It could be switched from one setting to the other by TPS location. So, for example, we could have settting 1 to start retard at 80% or less throttle, which is closed loop. Start retard in at 5 or 6 psi, and let it go up in retard to as high as we can, as long as it stays in closed loop. THEN, when TPS is 80% or greater, the second setting activates, and retard can start in at 8 psi on up. This way, if we are mashing the gas from a stop, the ecu will be in open loop right away, with 0 boost. Setting 2 will be first activated. That way, we can build most power without retard until 8 psi. Then the retard kick in to prevent detonation. Now lets say we take off from a stop lighlty, in light boost. SEtting 1 will be active, and will only start retard with 5 or 6 psi on up, just until it switches over to setting 2 retard values. Does this make sense to anyone? Logically, it sounds right..Actually, the J&S Safeguard may do this..not sure... Ideally, this is what we need. What do you guys think?? I just may try and contact the actual designer/builder of the J&S to see what he thinks. You never know, he may be able to design one just for us

Ok, here is a quote from J&S safeguaurd for the unit that will work for us: "If the unit is connected to the TPS wire, the unit will pull the TPS signal to 5v at 0 psi. This should kick the ECU out of closed loop operation." This will work great IMO. That way, WHENEVER we are boosting, the ecu will be in open loop, and we can start retarding at whatever psi we want, and we can adjust how much retard per psi of boost we want. The only drawback is that we will see 15 degrees of advance at lower boost, which may hurt HP in low boost. But when racing, we arent there for very long anyway.. Under light throttle boost, HP and pull may be hurt too though... But my theory does make sense. Whenever i boost lightly from a stop, in closed loop, the car responds and pulls very well. If I go from a stop and use a lot of gas pedal, the car takes longer to get faster, ie.. there is less spark advance in lower boost. I just wish there was compromise like my 2 stage idea...

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