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TeamJasonESi_TDec-22-00 04:42 AM
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#279, "fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited)"
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LAST EDITED ON 22-Dec-00 AT 09:44 AM (PST)

I can't se this as true, Hoot.

I think we've already spoken to his one time, but I just wanted to get your grasp on it.

>a T04/03 won't require any more
>fuel than a S-16G if
>they're running at the same
>PSI. at any given
>rpm, if the boost is
>the same they are pushing
>the SAME amount of air.


So, are you saying a Super 20g and a T-25 both pushing 10 psi are giving the same amount of hp? That's in effect what I think you're saying if they need the same amount of fuel per level of boosted psi. Fuel = hp. Simple truth is that each turbo has different flow rates called CFM's. The T-25 has a ridiculously low flow rate, whereas a race turbo such as the Super 20g has a laggy high, high flow rate. Each would hit 10 psi at different rpm's, but the difference in hp and needs for fuel would be enormous.


> boost thresh-hold, lag and
>high-rpm boost capability are the
>only things that change with
>turbo size.

All of these things are contributing facts to what makes a turbo different and unique to someone's turbo application, but I would add that fuel ALSO needs to differ uniquely to every single turbo application as well.

the AMOUNT
>of air that they push
>is determined by the PSI
>and your engine's displacement.

That's true and also the turbo and compressor capacity(the amount of air the turbo can hold and push through it's compressor) Since a T-25 needs only a little bit of air to fill up it's compressor and turbine blades, it spools quickly and needs smaller amounts of corresponding fuel at a certain level of psi to create your car's most efficeint stoichiometric(sp?) ratio.


>so a fuel pressure/injector size
>that works with one turbo
>will work with another for
>the same boost level.

I respectfully disagree b/c of my previous comments. I look forward to your take on this Hoot.

Therefore, it's my opinion that the T04/03 turbo would need a "different" amount of fuel than does the S-16g. Albeit maybe a small amount, if each turbo has different flow rates, in which I'm sure they do, they will also need different fuel pressures.



Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)


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Star Fuel pressure (got some numbers for you Jason :) [View all] , TeamWyatt, Dec-14-00 09:39 AM
  RE: Star Fuel pressure (got some numbers for you Jason :), BoostnRS, Dec-14-00 10:01 AM, #1
RE: Star Fuel pressure (got some numbers for you Jason :), SaberKhan, Dec-20-00 01:42 PM, #3
Thanks Wyatt..., TeamJasonESi_T, Dec-14-00 02:38 PM, #2
RE: Thanks Wyatt..., Hoot, Dec-21-00 12:38 PM, #4
      fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited), TeamJasonESi_T, Dec-22-00 04:42 AM #5
           RE: fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited), Hoot, Dec-22-00 10:39 AM, #6
                RE: fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited), SaberKhan, Dec-22-00 01:27 PM, #7
                RE: fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited), TeamJasonESi_T, Dec-22-00 04:07 PM, #8
                     RE: fuel needs are different for each turbo (revisited), Hoot, Dec-23-00 11:42 AM, #9

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