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4th cylinder misfire [View all]GhostVengeFeb-07-08 08:46 PM
by GhostVenge
91689 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: 4th cylinder misfire, djtrickee, Jan-24-08 05:40 AM, #1
RE: 4th cylinder misfire, GhostVenge, Jan-24-08 05:50 AM, #2
      RE: 4th cylinder misfire, Yo, Jan-25-08 10:50 AM, #3
           RE: 4th cylinder misfire, GhostVenge, Jan-27-08 05:43 AM, #4
                RE: 4th cylinder misfire, justins71, Jan-27-08 12:49 PM, #5
                     RE: 4th cylinder misfire, GhostVenge, Jan-29-08 08:43 AM, #6
                          RE: 4th cylinder misfire, GhostVenge, Feb-03-08 08:43 AM, #7
                               RE: 4th cylinder misfire, Noogabox, Feb-07-08 05:11 AM, #8
                                    RE: 4th cylinder misfire, GhostVenge, Feb-07-08 08:46 PM, #9
weird idle flutter and cam angle sensor issue... [View all]twinvengesFeb-07-08 12:53 PM
by twinvenges
31413 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: weird idle flutter and cam angle sensor issue..., KnightHawk434th, Feb-06-08 03:10 AM, #1
RE: weird idle flutter and cam angle sensor issue..., red96rs, Feb-06-08 03:42 AM, #2
      RE: weird idle flutter and cam angle sensor issue..., twinvenges, Feb-07-08 12:53 PM, #3
help needed [View all]98dsmNTFeb-07-08 08:33 AM
by 98dsmNT
31361 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: help needed, Agas, Feb-05-08 10:25 AM, #1
RE: help needed, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Feb-06-08 02:05 AM, #2
      RE: help needed, 98dsmNT, Feb-07-08 08:33 AM, #3
Almost ready to remove the head for gasket replacement... [View all]jazzkeysFeb-07-08 05:37 AM
by 2GeclipseRS
41601 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Almost ready to remove the head for gasket replacement..., twinvenges, Jan-25-08 04:48 AM, #1
RE: Almost ready to remove the head for gasket replacement..., jazzkeys, Jan-25-08 06:20 AM, #2
      RE: Almost ready to remove the head for gasket replacement..., foggy45, Jan-25-08 08:01 AM, #3
           RE: Almost ready to remove the head for gasket replacement..., 2GeclipseRS, Feb-07-08 05:37 AM, #4
MAP sensor voltage question? [View all]eclipse982nrRSTFeb-05-08 01:25 PM
by eclipse982nrRST
51512 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: MAP sensor voltage question?, slippi84, Feb-01-08 07:57 AM, #1
RE: MAP sensor voltage question?, mcgyvr, Feb-04-08 03:30 AM, #2
      RE: MAP sensor voltage question?, eclipse982nrRST, Feb-04-08 05:08 AM, #3
           RE: MAP sensor voltage question?, ModeratorCorbin, Feb-05-08 11:38 AM, #4
                RE: MAP sensor voltage question?, eclipse982nrRST, Feb-05-08 01:25 PM, #5
Adjustable Cam Gear Setting? [View all]KnightHawk434thFeb-04-08 08:41 AM
by 2GeclipseRS
101735 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, red96rs, Feb-01-08 06:08 PM, #1
RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, 95eclipse420A, Feb-01-08 06:37 PM, #2
      RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, freelancefool, Feb-02-08 05:12 AM, #3
           RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, KnightHawk434th, Feb-02-08 12:13 PM, #4
                RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, foggy45, Feb-02-08 02:45 PM, #5
                     RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, KnightHawk434th, Feb-02-08 02:55 PM, #6
                          RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, freelancefool, Feb-02-08 04:57 PM, #7
                               RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, Moderatorbullettdsm, Feb-03-08 12:52 AM, #8
                                    RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, KnightHawk434th, Feb-03-08 02:16 AM, #9
                                         RE: Adjustable Cam Gear Setting?, 2GeclipseRS, Feb-04-08 08:41 AM, #10
Help Please! Crankshaft Balancer Pulley [View all]wideout179Feb-04-08 03:12 AM
by mcgyvr
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Replies to this topic:
RE: Help Please! Crankshaft Balancer Pulley, daes_venge, Feb-02-08 05:46 PM, #1
RE: Help Please! Crankshaft Balancer Pulley, mcgyvr, Feb-04-08 03:12 AM, #2
HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!! [View all]supa_dupa_manFeb-03-08 04:44 PM
by djtrickee
61607 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, ez, Feb-03-08 10:35 AM, #1
RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, supa_dupa_man, Feb-03-08 10:41 AM, #2
      RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, ez, Feb-03-08 10:51 AM, #3
           RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, turbo8u, Feb-03-08 02:58 PM, #4
                RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, ramsey95ESi, Feb-03-08 04:24 PM, #5
RE: HELP!! MY CAR WONT START!!!, djtrickee, Feb-03-08 04:44 PM, #6
BBP exhaust [View all]xtremerollerFeb-03-08 06:51 AM
by xtremeroller
156845 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: BBP exhaust, daes_venge, Jan-02-08 01:45 PM, #1
RE: BBP exhaust, 95eclipse420A, Jan-02-08 06:11 PM, #2
      RE: BBP exhaust, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-03-08 01:49 AM, #3
           RE: BBP exhaust, daes_venge, Jan-03-08 02:02 PM, #4
RE: BBP exhaust, D32, Jan-03-08 05:14 PM, #5
RE: BBP exhaust, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-04-08 09:11 AM, #6
      RE: BBP exhaust, D32, Jan-04-08 06:23 PM, #7
           RE: BBP exhaust, totaleclipse_05, Jan-04-08 06:38 PM, #8
                RE: BBP exhaust, Slo2g, Jan-05-08 01:12 AM, #9
RE: BBP exhaust, xtremeroller, Jan-06-08 10:39 AM, #10
RE: BBP exhaust, zestridge_, Jan-07-08 04:41 AM, #11
      RE: BBP exhaust, DytDSM, Jan-07-08 04:46 AM, #12
      RE: BBP exhaust, xtremeroller, Jan-08-08 12:12 PM, #13
           RE: BBP exhaust, zestridge_, Jan-09-08 04:43 AM, #14
                RE: BBP exhaust, xtremeroller, Feb-03-08 06:51 AM, #15
-8AN custom fuel lines [View all]mrmozambique13Feb-02-08 03:30 PM
by Star Turbo Talon
11560 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: -8AN custom fuel lines, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Feb-02-08 03:30 PM, #1
Head removed; how much cleaning? [View all]jazzkeysFeb-02-08 12:32 PM
by jazzkeys
51446 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Head removed; how much cleaning?, djtrickee, Feb-02-08 05:53 AM, #1
RE: Head removed; how much cleaning?, jazzkeys, Feb-02-08 06:06 AM, #2
RE: Head removed; how much cleaning?, red96rs, Feb-02-08 06:30 AM, #3
RE: Head removed; how much cleaning?, Moderatorbullettdsm, Feb-02-08 09:54 AM, #4
      RE: Head removed; how much cleaning?, jazzkeys, Feb-02-08 12:32 PM, #5
For those of you that have changed your throttle cable [View all]98VengeI4Feb-02-08 12:54 AM
by bullettdsm
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Replies to this topic:
RE: For those of you that have changed your throttle cable, foggy45, Feb-01-08 10:35 AM, #1
RE: For those of you that have changed your throttle cable, Moderatorbullettdsm, Feb-02-08 12:54 AM, #2
ebay udp? [View all]RS2GFeb-01-08 06:08 PM
by RS2G
142669 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: ebay udp?, KnightHawk434th, Dec-01-07 07:56 PM, #1
RE: ebay udp?, Moderatorbullettdsm, Dec-02-07 12:36 AM, #2
      RE: ebay udp?, BOOSTED ECLIPSE, Dec-02-07 04:44 AM, #3
      RE: ebay udp?, RS2G, Dec-18-07 02:51 PM, #4
           RE: ebay udp?, BoostedEclipse, Dec-19-07 04:50 AM, #5
      RE: ebay udp?, fasterimage, Dec-22-07 05:28 PM, #6
           RE: ebay udp?, fullmoon, Dec-23-07 04:21 AM, #7
                RE: ebay udp?, RS2G, Feb-01-08 03:28 PM, #8
                     RE: ebay udp?, fullmoon, Feb-01-08 03:50 PM, #9
                          RE: ebay udp?, foggy45, Feb-01-08 04:27 PM, #10
                               RE: ebay udp?, fullmoon, Feb-01-08 04:33 PM, #11
                               RE: ebay udp?, RS2G, Feb-01-08 04:35 PM, #12
                                    RE: ebay udp?, fullmoon, Feb-01-08 04:42 PM, #13
                                         RE: ebay udp?, RS2G, Feb-01-08 06:08 PM, #14
Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k) [View all]red96rsFeb-01-08 06:03 PM
by red96rs
71648 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-31-08 04:27 AM, #1
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), red96rs, Jan-31-08 04:28 AM, #2
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), eclipse982nrRST, Jan-31-08 04:31 AM, #3
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), cc8balla, Jan-31-08 04:48 AM, #4
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), 95eclipse420A, Jan-31-08 04:29 AM, #5
RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), RS2G, Feb-01-08 04:39 PM, #6
      RE: Story of my engine pull. Lots of Pics (no 56k), red96rs, Feb-01-08 06:03 PM, #7
need answers thanks [View all]alexwk01Feb-01-08 10:41 AM
by foggy45
21498 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: need answers thanks, red96rs, Jan-31-08 06:01 PM, #1
RE: need answers thanks, foggy45, Feb-01-08 10:41 AM, #2
Thermostat Installation Gasket/Seal [View all]zwickyjFeb-01-08 01:41 AM
by DarkOne
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Replies to this topic:
RE: Thermostat Installation Gasket/Seal, Slimyjr., Jan-31-08 02:17 PM, #1
RE: Thermostat Installation Gasket/Seal, zwickyj, Jan-31-08 02:24 PM, #2
      RE: Thermostat Installation Gasket/Seal, daes_venge, Jan-31-08 06:19 PM, #3
           RE: Thermostat Installation Gasket/Seal, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Feb-01-08 01:41 AM, #4
part number needed, cant find it. [View all]JustOneJan-31-08 10:31 PM
by GringoEJS
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Replies to this topic:
RE: part number needed, cant find it., TeamDR1665, Dec-30-07 05:57 AM, #1
RE: part number needed, cant find it., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-02-08 09:09 AM, #2
      RE: part number needed, cant find it., Locke_db, Jan-03-08 08:26 AM, #3
RE: part number needed, cant find it., GringoEJS, Jan-31-08 10:31 PM, #4
heater core bypass [View all]97gseclipsedudeJan-31-08 02:16 PM
by 97gseclipsedude
112275 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: heater core bypass, red96rs, Jan-28-08 05:14 PM, #1
RE: heater core bypass, 97gseclipsedude, Jan-28-08 05:35 PM, #2
      RE: heater core bypass, ramsey95ESi, Jan-29-08 11:04 AM, #3
           RE: heater core bypass, 97gseclipsedude, Jan-29-08 11:36 AM, #4
                RE: heater core bypass, ramsey95ESi, Jan-29-08 04:55 PM, #5
                     RE: heater core bypass, 97gseclipsedude, Jan-29-08 06:40 PM, #6
                          RE: heater core bypass, ramsey95ESi, Jan-30-08 09:08 AM, #7
                               RE: heater core bypass, Slimyjr., Jan-31-08 01:54 PM, #8
                                    RE: heater core bypass, 97gseclipsedude, Jan-31-08 02:04 PM, #9
                                         RE: heater core bypass, Slimyjr., Jan-31-08 02:15 PM, #10
                                              RE: heater core bypass, 97gseclipsedude, Jan-31-08 02:16 PM, #11
views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx [View all]dalesmitsuJan-30-08 06:32 AM
by 2GeclipseRS
71932 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-22-08 09:44 AM, #1
RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, projectrsna, Jan-22-08 03:10 PM, #2
RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, Moderatorxcasbonx, Jan-23-08 01:19 AM, #3
      RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, 95eclipse420A, Jan-23-08 04:03 AM, #4
           RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, Sour Kraut, Jan-25-08 04:00 AM, #5
                RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, dalesmitsu, Jan-26-08 01:24 AM, #6
                     RE: views about JASPER 420a motors or 4spd Atx, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-30-08 06:32 AM, #7
Possibly picking up a 420a with a thrown rod [View all]2GeclipseRSJan-30-08 05:33 AM
by 2GeclipseRS
31393 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Possibly picking up a 420a with a thrown rod, Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-28-08 09:42 AM, #1
RE: Possibly picking up a 420a with a thrown rod, 95eclipse420A, Jan-28-08 09:56 AM, #2
      RE: Possibly picking up a 420a with a thrown rod, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-30-08 05:33 AM, #3
Can I use any of these parts? [View all]HarashiJan-29-08 05:22 PM
by Harashi
91623 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Can I use any of these parts?, daes_venge, Jan-21-08 07:20 PM, #1
RE: Can I use any of these parts?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jan-21-08 10:01 PM, #2
      RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Harashi, Jan-22-08 07:07 AM, #3
      RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Harashi, Jan-27-08 01:35 PM, #4
           RE: Can I use any of these parts?, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jan-29-08 03:15 AM, #5
                RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-29-08 04:07 AM, #6
                     RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Harashi, Jan-29-08 10:54 AM, #7
                          RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-29-08 02:22 PM, #8
                               RE: Can I use any of these parts?, Harashi, Jan-29-08 05:22 PM, #9
no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss [View all]hipereclipseJan-29-08 02:58 PM
by hipereclipse
81539 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-13-08 12:09 PM, #1
RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, hipereclipse, Jan-14-08 08:21 AM, #2
      RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-14-08 09:17 AM, #3
           RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, fresh95, Jan-14-08 10:37 AM, #4
                RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, hipereclipse, Jan-28-08 07:51 AM, #5
                     RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-28-08 08:18 AM, #6
                          RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, Tuxdreamerx, Jan-28-08 05:59 PM, #7
                               RE: no compression in one cylinder/extreme oil loss, hipereclipse, Jan-29-08 02:58 PM, #8
Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower) [View all]susafussJan-29-08 06:01 AM
by susafuss
81745 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-21-08 09:06 AM, #1
RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), susafuss, Jan-21-08 11:59 AM, #2
      RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-22-08 09:16 AM, #3
RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), TEAM OVER REV, Jan-21-08 12:39 PM, #4
RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), susafuss, Jan-21-08 05:49 PM, #5
      RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), Slimyjr., Jan-22-08 04:59 AM, #6
           RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), ModeratorVX100, Jan-27-08 04:27 AM, #7
                RE: Tips for removing the intake mani(upper and lower), susafuss, Jan-29-08 06:01 AM, #8
Where to buy sprocket [View all]dj_lethrowJan-28-08 03:50 PM
by Star Turbo Talon
31438 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Where to buy sprocket, Moderatorxcasbonx, Jan-28-08 09:43 AM, #1
RE: Where to buy sprocket, Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-28-08 09:47 AM, #2
      RE: Where to buy sprocket, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jan-28-08 03:50 PM, #3
max horsepower! [View all]WarriorJan-28-08 03:08 PM
by spooled420
173060 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: max horsepower!, eluvurite, Jan-22-08 03:13 PM, #1
RE: max horsepower!, totaleclipse_05, Jan-22-08 03:41 PM, #2
      RE: max horsepower!, powellds, Jan-22-08 07:18 PM, #3
           RE: max horsepower!, Slimyjr., Jan-23-08 01:16 AM, #4
           RE: max horsepower!, djtrickee, Jan-23-08 06:15 AM, #5
                RE: max horsepower!, BoostedEclipse, Jan-23-08 11:19 AM, #6
                RE: max horsepower!, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-23-08 11:43 AM, #7
                     RE: max horsepower!, BoostedEclipse, Jan-23-08 06:27 PM, #8
                RE: max horsepower!, fullmoon, Jan-24-08 08:02 AM, #9
                     RE: max horsepower!, djtrickee, Jan-24-08 08:54 AM, #10
                          RE: max horsepower!, fullmoon, Jan-24-08 09:11 AM, #11
                               RE: max horsepower!, 95eclipse420A, Jan-24-08 12:00 PM, #12
                                    RE: max horsepower!, fullmoon, Jan-24-08 12:58 PM, #13
                                    RE: max horsepower!, Moderatorbullettdsm, Jan-24-08 02:08 PM, #14
                                         RE: max horsepower!, totaleclipse_05, Jan-24-08 07:26 PM, #15
                                              RE: max horsepower!, alain95i4, Jan-25-08 03:44 AM, #16
                                    RE: max horsepower!, spooled420, Jan-28-08 03:08 PM, #17
Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback [View all]avengerowner23Jan-28-08 03:51 AM
by totaleclipse_05
51589 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback, DytDSM, Jan-19-08 03:21 PM, #1
RE: Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback, avengerowner23, Jan-20-08 08:48 AM, #2
      RE: Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback, ramsey95ESi, Jan-21-08 02:49 PM, #3
           RE: Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback, avengerowner23, Jan-28-08 03:34 AM, #4
                RE: Stock gs-t catback or ebay catback, totaleclipse_05, Jan-28-08 03:51 AM, #5
power steering gone [View all]ggaarryyJan-28-08 02:25 AM
by ggaarryy
51402 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: power steering gone, 95eclipse420A, Jan-17-08 06:51 AM, #1
RE: power steering gone, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-17-08 10:46 AM, #2
RE: power steering gone, ggaarryy, Jan-19-08 03:11 AM, #3
RE: power steering gone, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-20-08 12:37 PM, #4
RE: power steering gone, ggaarryy, Jan-28-08 02:25 AM, #5
Exhaust question [View all]hnda8rJan-27-08 02:30 PM
by hnda8r
122388 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-22-08 06:00 AM, #1
RE: Exhaust question, BoostedEclipse, Jan-22-08 06:35 AM, #2
RE: Exhaust question, Harashi, Jan-22-08 07:05 AM, #3
      RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-22-08 08:22 AM, #4
           RE: Exhaust question, Harashi, Jan-22-08 02:41 PM, #5
                RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-22-08 03:57 PM, #6
                     RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-23-08 12:27 PM, #7
                          RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-24-08 12:46 AM, #8
RE: Exhaust question, fullmoon, Jan-24-08 08:09 AM, #9
      RE: Exhaust question, daes_venge, Jan-24-08 12:31 PM, #10
           RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-24-08 03:56 PM, #11
                RE: Exhaust question, hnda8r, Jan-27-08 02:30 PM, #12
Whats the Diff [View all]Mboogie2008Jan-27-08 12:21 PM
by Mboogie2008
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Replies to this topic:
RE: Whats the Diff, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Jan-27-08 08:17 AM, #1
RE: Whats the Diff, Mboogie2008, Jan-27-08 08:22 AM, #2
      RE: Whats the Diff, TeamDR1665, Jan-27-08 09:52 AM, #3
           RE: Whats the Diff, Mboogie2008, Jan-27-08 12:05 PM, #4
                RE: Whats the Diff, 2GeclipseRS, Jan-27-08 12:09 PM, #5
                     RE: Whats the Diff, Mboogie2008, Jan-27-08 12:21 PM, #6
Will these injectors work? [View all]NightfallJan-26-08 08:13 PM
by dude_33694
21408 ---
Replies to this topic:
RE: Will these injectors work?, VelocitaPaola, Jan-26-08 02:03 PM, #1
RE: Will these injectors work?, dude_33694, Jan-26-08 08:13 PM, #2
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