i was just wondering what has been the fastest and the most whp on 420aT's, i have a esi with a t3t4 garrett, portfueler with 500cc injectors, aeromotive 1:1 regulator, 24-10-3 intercooler, halmann boost controller, and a spec stage 3 clutch, everthing else is stock.
my car put down 308whp and 305ftlbs at 16psi and has been up and running for about 2 months now, no need to tell me what i should do with my car =, I AM WELL AWARE OF WHAT THE LIMITS SHOULD BE!!

No shit??

THats fucking awesome.

Sooo...your saying 16psi on stock internals?

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

yes completely stock from the head to the block.

SoCal DSM
1996 RS-T: Under Construction
1999 GS AE: New daily driver
"USING NO WAY AS A WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS A LIMITATION"--BRUCE LEE

99 RS-T
"New bottom end(8.6:1 w/long rods)"
Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

i will be running it on the 22nd, i am hoping for mid to low 12s on 24.5 inch M&H slicks of course.

honest to god, if someone is willing to put money on it i will pull my motor apart and prove what is done to the motor, it is stock, stock pistons, rods, cams, springs, retainers, headgasket, head bolts, rings, bearings etc.

he doesnt come on much since he sold his car but suieclipse was dynoing 337 and supposedly the guy he sold it to got it to over 400

1996 eclipse GS-T
1968 Ford Mustang
2004 Suzuki GSXR600
2006 Honda CBR1000RR
Decisions Decisions

1996 eclipse GS-T
1968 Ford Mustang
2004 Suzuki GSXR600
2006 Honda CBR1000RR
Decisions Decisions

Yea bro, that's a little much for stock internals. If you did do that, great, but it won't last long. Your going to have to have one hell of a 60 ft. time to pull off mid to low twelves.

-Roman

I don't doubt what you say, but your engine is going to blow very soon if you keep running that amount of boost on a stock motor. I guess have fun while it lasts.

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- 05 Subaru STi
- 97 eclipse gs (289whp w/ 276tq)

I think many fail to understand why a motor dies. Our motors do not tend to throw rods or anything completely destructive such as many domestic motors I've delt with. We run a hyper. type piston that really can withstand some abuse. It is when detonation of either a hot spot, too early or too late ignition, or simply not enough fuel magnifies a weak spot in a piston (shallow ring lands). He's obviously got the right tuning capabilities may have to make many trips to a dyno to get it right. Maybe we have another freak. If he is willing to push the envelope like many of the guys that started here (Murix, Dino, ect..) then I say go for it.

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I dunno but we have a lot of Honda boys up here making 300+ whp on their stock bottom ends boosting 12, 14, 15psi and driving around like that for a long time. Maybe it'll be okay.

1995 Eagle Talon ESi

Flashback to Chickenfucker at the Shootout in 2004...

bumbitty-bumpbumpbumpbump-brrrrRRRRRRROOOOOOOWWWWW *CRACK!*.....



Hey, Thura. Since your car is dead, can I snag that axle?



16psi on stock internals is not going to last long, imo.

2009 Corolla S - waiting until 2012 for my next toy!
*SOLD* 1992 3000GT VR4 - pearl white and 45,6xx miles!
*SOLD* 2007 Subaru Legacy GT sedan
*SOLD* 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - BPU
*SOLD* 97 Eclipse GS Star Stage 2

Here is a pic of me testing out my new Slicks, couple more days till I have some times.

1995 Eagle Talon ESi

Gor any new times or dyno charts

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

Originally posted by awddynamite

Originally posted by Blizare Gor any new times or dyno charts

i will have be running it this wednesday, and i will try to get someone to scan the dyno sheet and the timeslips for me.

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

just got back from the track, the first run was better than i would expect it was a 12.6 @ 108mph with a 1.859 60ft
the second run of the night went like this
1.78360ft
5.148 330
7.963 1/8
87.22 mph
10.407 1000ft
12.476 1/4
108.03 mph
i thought i had broke my tranny but actually the c-clip shook off somewhere down the 12.4 run, we fixed it and then my friend got the last pass of 12.7 @107mph.
i will try to have the slips and dyno stuff scanned soon but there was a witness who is on this board rssmokedu or something like that.
I SHOULD HAVE THEM UP SOON!

dude, i gotta give you props. Can't believe we have someone here running 12s on a stock 420a block. Even tho it won't last long, you now have something to brag about. How are you axels doing?

SoCal DSM
1996 RS-T: Under Construction
1999 GS AE: New daily driver
"USING NO WAY AS A WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS A LIMITATION"--BRUCE LEE

axles held up fin, everthing is good on the car, drove it home and all. starting to think about building it and going for low 11s high 10s, but we will see!!

You know I must give you a thumbs up for being different and trying(and doing) all this on a stock motor. That said. The downside of someone seeing this thread is that now you will have every Tom, Dick and Harry out there who has a portfueller and frontmount thinking they don't need a built bottom end to support the higher power levels.

So for all of you out there that think you can just throw larger injectors and a front mount on you car, be warned this is NOT the recomended path that should be taken. It only takes one little sniff of detonation and one or more of the ring lands will break.

Kevin
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The new:

definately good times, do you have an lsd? I'm surprised the axles held up with slicks, anyways a 1.7 60' is kick ass congrats, 108 is what I trapped now if i can only get my 60' down to that that would kick ass

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the tranny has no lsd, maybe if i decide to go further with the car and build the motor, pnp and build the valvetrain, i will install an lsd at the same time.

First and foremost, my compliments and praise for running that much power on a stock bottom end. It also looks like you can drive too I hope the car holds up, as those are very nice numbers. Congrats!

Three questions:

First: What type of turbo? I know you said T3/T4, but are you willing to share any more about it?

Second: Why is your name awddynamite?

Third: Have you gotten a chance to post the timeslips?

Thanks much,
Brian

Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX
Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system
Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255
Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs)
90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast

Cool, thanks much.


Brian

Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX
Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system
Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255
Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs)
90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast

So far this is just talk. Really now. You would be doing everyone a favor by posting a dynochart.

It's not that I don't believe you or anything, I just want to see it. No one has gone this far on a stock motor and it would pretty much be the thread of the year if you posted all the info on your setup w/ dyno/timeslips.

If I could meet you in person I would shake your hand.

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

Post some pics of your ride then...


Congrats if you did this, but until you start posting shit... I'm skeptical



Nick
97RS

Excellent numbers. I'm surprised the stock piston/rings held up though. I'd be careful if I were you; statistically, our stock engine doesn't fair well above 12 psi.

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Kon C

"Sometimes, a man has to do what a man has to do."

i havent gotten someone to scan the slip and dyno sheet yet but i got the video up, here is the link for all the non believers!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/983DAF82-2415-49EE-9560-750DA52FF4C7.htm

i am going to the track this friday, hoping for better numbers this time around. maybe 12.2s

Wow and imagine if your motor was built and you could push more psi.. Jealous much? I am...

98' Eclipse GS- Hahn Stage 2- SOLD
02' Honda S2000- SOLD
04' Acura TL- Current Whip

99 RS-T
"New bottom end(8.6:1 w/long rods)"
Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

thanks, im probably gonna build it and get an extra head so i can give it to baker cylinder heads to do some pnp, i have no rev limit so i might go gt35r and see what i can do with that.
only time will tell

Wholly crap dude you can drive!!!!!! I have no dought with a good tune the bottom will hold that much psi. You are the first person I can think of that boosted thier 420a and installed ems at or around the same time on a stock block. Most people boost the stock motor with a sfmu or fmu. Then blow it up. Then build it. Then if they want more(most do) they go ems. Props dude. Now paint your bumper. lol

99 RS-T
"New bottom end(8.6:1 w/long rods)"
Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

If you don't have LSD how did you not pull a 1 wheel wonder in the burnout box? Nice run regaurdless..

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- 05 Subaru STi
- 97 eclipse gs (289whp w/ 276tq)

yea that was a good burnout for no LSD

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While in the burnout box you turn your wheel left and right real fast. Its a common practice for most peg legged FWD guys who have been racing for more than a week. Also I do my burnouts in Second gear which is usually two fast for just one tire to spin.

i knwe bout turning the wheel but the second gear thing is new to me!

if its not broken dont fix it!!

buy my shit...
stock eclipse, seats ,seat belts,deck!

damn good run. Just goes to show what a stock 420a motor can do

SoCal DSM
1996 RS-T: Under Construction
1999 GS AE: New daily driver
"USING NO WAY AS A WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS A LIMITATION"--BRUCE LEE

haha it's funny his motor is holding up to 16 psi and yours pooped out at 5.

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nice job! we need some more pics of that thing!

// Jim // 95 Talon / 99 Eclipse (sold)

Cincinnati,OH

That is a nice run! Keep it up! Post some engine bay pictures.
What was your 60 foot time? My best on BFG Radial is been 1.9 sec.
You shoul be in the 1.7 sec, right?

1995 Eclipse RS-T
GT35R, SPEC Stage 5 clutch
E85 Fuel(Helping the Ecosystem)
MS, v3.0, 029t
10.87 @ 135

first run was a 1.859 60ft
second run was a 1.783 60ft

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I'm still in disbelief, but fucking hell, congratulations.

Curious, what fuel octane, and what ignition (msd?) were you using?

You're definitely the first. Only other person that has pushed a stock block that far is Tommyboy, and I believe he maxed out at 12psi.

could I ask for a copy of your fuel map for the 16 psi you are running?

-97 GS (First project, 299 whp)(sold)
- 97 RS 2.6 last numbers: 306hp, 352tq @16psi (Dead, parted out)
- 99 GS OZ, Hahn Kit, 56k miles (Sold)
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- 00 Nissan Maxima GLE (Daily Driver)
- 02 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro

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Kon C

"Sometimes, a man has to do what a man has to do."

Congrats man....real good job. Please post up the dyno sheet.

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i never thought i would see the day that someone got that much power out of a stock block and ran that kind of time, good job.

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so... um, dyno sheets?

teeeheee still dont beleave him imo

i believe ya. Did you end up running the car again?

SoCal DSM
1996 RS-T: Under Construction
1999 GS AE: New daily driver
"USING NO WAY AS A WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS A LIMITATION"--BRUCE LEE

I don't.

I want video of you in the car with the two forms of picture id, your mother with your birth certificate and a cop with your fingerprints. and you singing "piss on you". with pictures of you and the car. And the time slips, and dyno sheets with a notary stamping both of them.

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

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95 Talon ESi-T

OMG, calm down... It's a joke. Don't any of you watch Chapelle Show?

-Chris
1999 Eclipse T-GS


2.4 Project is Officially underway

There was a time when people said 1g rod couldnt handle anything past 400hp.. Several cars making 600hp on stock blocks. All in the tune and a little luck.

Congrats man!

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Kon C

"Sometimes, a man has to do what a man has to do."

good luck, hope you reach your goal.

SoCal DSM
1996 RS-T: Under Construction
1999 GS AE: New daily driver
"USING NO WAY AS A WAY, HAVING NO LIMITATION AS A LIMITATION"--BRUCE LEE

Congrats man. It's about time I see some guys laying some times down with the NT's. Thats a nice healthy run right there and will only get better I am sure.

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1999 Civic SI, Boosted and built, 12.67@112.

Gone but not forgotten.....
1998 Eagle Talon ESI, built and boosted 14.2@98
1992 Eagle Talon TSI AWD12.91@104
1992 Honda Hatch swapped and sprayed14.0@108

I'm sceptical still...

Jason
'11 Ford Mustang GT/CS
'11 Ford Mustang V6 6-Speed (SOLD)
'04 Nissan 350z Touring (SOLD)
'95 Turbo Eclipse GS (SOLD and will be missed)
'90 Talon TSi AWD (SOLD)

Engine bay pics please. That camcorder you used to shoot the video should have still shot capabilities, right?

That blue car got me boobies once

DAAMNN! Sweet numbers and times. Mad props yo and post some shots/ videos of your 1g. Cant wait to see what you get after your build up.

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