Decided to start a new thread dedicated to this pain in the pee whole to not clog the build thread.
So here is where I currently am.

Had to disconnect heater hoses and fuel line to drop manifold in.

Had to remove windshield wiper fluid reservoir to fit the Throttle Body (still brainstorming a way to get it all to fit).

Have removed the cruise control cable, and with the remaining throttle cable relocated it 2 holes down that I just discovered, seems to give me enough room. (will get pics up later).

Going to have to grab more wire loom because had to remove the MAP/break booster sensor from the wire route it normally followed.

Think I need to find either a connector or extra long heater hose to make sure it doesn't contact the intake manifold. These are my ideas and hopefully all goes well, things sitting so low have yet to even think about how the intake is going to work... one problem at a time right? Feel free to post ideas to help me out

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Thought I would connect this up as well;

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=60&topic_id=28757&mesg_id=28757&page=&topic_page=2

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

Post up some pics so we can see what youre dealing with here. One thing to remember is bullett doesnt have a washer tank, heater hoses (or possibly the whole core at this point), a big ass battery, and Im sure a few other deletes that make it easier to install. I noticed this from his OBX install pic.

95 Eclipse GS: 10.5:1, Crower 2's and MSII
186 WHP - 150 WTQ
14.697 @ 93.85 MPH......Gone, but not forgotten
99 420A Avenger: Given to my sister
99 GS OZ: Sold
03 Evo 8: Family Car with balls

Here is the pics. I have a small battery so that helps. As for the windshield washer fluid, I can run without it temporarily, I will just have to find a way to modify the stocker, or find a smaller one from another car and rig the shit out of it =P

Heater core I need to keep in, like I said I will just have to get a bigger hose or find a connector and use the ones of my fiances old talon to rig them so they are extra long to go around things. Also from Marks pics, it seems like mine may be a bit bigger, hard to tell through pics though.

Anyways here we are. Here is the throttle cable box. You can see that I moved it down. (the two bolt hole above it are where it was originally mounted) Also I switched the side the throttle cable was one, had to use a dremel to cut a whole out, but seems to work fine at the moment. If you look close enough you can see where I originally tried to mount it from the bottom but that didn't work.


Here is the other side you can see how impossible it would have been with a windshield wiper reservoir. You also can see the length of the heater hoses. I have the one connected.


Here is another view of the throttle cable mounted to the manifold. You can also see I had to split the loom to get the map/break booster sensor separated from the rest of the wire pack.


So this is where I am, hopefully things start to go smoother. Now if only I can find my electrical tape.

I'll try to update in an hour or so, feel free to txt/call me for more info etc. Numbers on the Rolodex if you dont have it.

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Almost done! Everything hooked up except one heater hose and intake. I am fairly certain I will have to shave down battery bracket to get an intake to fit

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Didnt you say you had a V2 you were going to try to stuff in there?

95 Eclipse GS: 10.5:1, Crower 2's and MSII
186 WHP - 150 WTQ
14.697 @ 93.85 MPH......Gone, but not forgotten
99 420A Avenger: Given to my sister
99 GS OZ: Sold
03 Evo 8: Family Car with balls

Yes, actually have the SRI in there atm, but only because I had to cut a port off the V2 and need to JB weld it, then will throw that on, already checked and it will fit.

... wtf... about 3 pictures I took did not save >< oh well big update incoming soon ok maybe they are on there, buggy ass PC problems

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

So sadly for my DD Intake manifold install, as you all know I have run into many problems, that could of been avoided if it wasn't my DD. But do to much quick thinking and shotty work I solved most my problems!!!
The windshield wiper reservoir still not solved, but I will save that for another day.

As shown above I had to relocate the throttle cable. Also learned I had to modify the cover over the bracket to accept the new cable location


As shown before I was having problem with heater hose length. I went into the shop and got an adapter and some hose clamps, than went to my part out car and stole the heater hoses off. Here is what I rigged up



After getting the one hose perfect, I found the other one had decent length once moved around more, so took MB's advice and tied it away from contact with the manifold


With most my problems solved I wanted it running so moved to the point of putting on the intake. Even though I have a tiny battery, the damn holder was providing much fitment problems, drove back to work, borrowed the saw and took care of my problem



Now I am having some slight problems getting things 100% because of this damn cable? whats it to and any ideas what to do about it? I have everything in place, but like I said would be more happy if I had the room this black cable blocked


But I know what you really want to hear, and here it is! (in the build thread)

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Originally posted by Fotowntalon
So sadly for my DD Intake manifold install, as you all know I have run into many problems, that could of been avoided if it wasn't my DD. But do to much quick thinking and shotty work I solved most my problems!!! The windshield wiper reservoir still not solved, but I will save that for another day. As shown above I had to relocate the throttle cable. Also learned I had to modify the cover over the bracket to accept the new cable location As shown before I was having problem with heater hose length. I went into the shop and got an adapter and some hose clamps, than went to my part out car and stole the heater hoses off. Here is what I rigged up After getting the one hose perfect, I found the other one had decent length once moved around more, so took MB's advice and tied it away from contact with the manifold With most my problems solved I wanted it running so moved to the point of putting on the intake. Even though I have a tiny battery, the damn holder was providing much fitment problems, drove back to work, borrowed the saw and took care of my problem Now I am having some slight problems getting things 100% because of this damn cable? whats it to and any ideas what to do about it? I have everything in place, but like I said would be more happy if I had the room this black cable blocked But I know what you really want to hear, and here it is! (in the build thread)

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1998 RS gone to(Dsm Heaven)
1997 gs gone to Dsm heaven

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

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1995 gs Saved from the crusher
1998 RS gone to(Dsm Heaven)
1997 gs gone to Dsm heaven

That's the hose for your clutch slave cylinder. Fluid runs through it.

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

I just remember seeing a hose going from the t stat housing to the lower coolant line, bypassing the heater hoses.

I like that battery reloation. I dont want to run one to the trunk. I might try that and see if my intake still fits. Where did you get a half size battery? Junkyard? Maybe PM me a part number for autozone perhaps?

95 Eclipse GS: 10.5:1, Crower 2's and MSII
186 WHP - 150 WTQ
14.697 @ 93.85 MPH......Gone, but not forgotten
99 420A Avenger: Given to my sister
99 GS OZ: Sold
03 Evo 8: Family Car with balls

not sure about MB's but mine is an odessy pc680, and i love it

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

Finally took her out today, with the v2 installed (yay!). First thing I noticed is I need to take more pressure off the throttle cable still, my gas pedal felt very heavy (not noticeable at higher rpms but very noticeable for city driving and start/go).

Also is it normal to have smoke periodically come out of the breathers on the valve cover? Did notice that, had me a little worried because I've normally ran with the pcv and etc. hooked up.

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

95 Eclipse GS: 10.5:1, Crower 2's and MSII
186 WHP - 150 WTQ
14.697 @ 93.85 MPH......Gone, but not forgotten
99 420A Avenger: Given to my sister
99 GS OZ: Sold
03 Evo 8: Family Car with balls

I drew this picture over the course of several hours to illustrate my plan to rehook back up my windshield wiper fluid

As you can very clearly see. I am going to hack off a ton off the right hand side, then cut off the top of the tube where the cap is and cut a whole one the right hand upper area and glue that there.

I can understand if this technical speak jargon is a little hard to explain, but what I need help with is what to seal up the left handed side of the plastic reservoir with.

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Why can't you relocate the bottle somewhere else?

the bottle is really big and not sure where else I would relocate it to, plus that would mean extending the wires and fluid hoses, all which sounds extremely fun but at the end of the day i like the stock location and think this will be the easiest route.

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

Would it be possible to try and "create" a new fluid reservoir that is smaller and could be used elsewhere... I have been recently thinking of doing something like this. perhaps even look at other designs in other cars... maybe a long skinny tube at the top to a larger section lower down.

-Jason

97 Talon ESi-T (forever in progress...)


95 GS (Gone)
16.74@83.18mph
119.8 whp - 113.3 lbs/ft


2GNT #677
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As long as you have a hole in the bottom for the pump then yes, I don't see why it wont work. I know my 5s drawing is rather shitty, but that's somewhat what it will work/look like, kinda skinny at the top , then fat at the bottom. only using stock location.

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

I removed mine years ago and never bothered putting it back in. That's always an option, just ditching it.

I contributed to the Wiki.

not that big of a deal for the summer, but really would like to have it for the winter. At the end of the day its something more convenient for me than anything else, not a necessity

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

If you have a rear wiper, you have a second reservoir. Extend the wires, install the front pump on the back res, and you're good.

Or, alternately, source a GS rear reservoir and pump, and install it.

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

-Jason

97 Talon ESi-T (forever in progress...)


95 GS (Gone)
16.74@83.18mph
119.8 whp - 113.3 lbs/ft


2GNT #677
My Wiki Page: www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Iamnotwhoiam
Pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/iamnotwhoiam/Talon/

Has the thought of Fiberglass come to you yet? Its not like the Washer Fluid is hot or anything, I think you can get away with reshaping the wall of the Reservoir to you're liking.

Plus fiberglass can be pretty fun to work with, molding it anyways.

Jeff.

Originally posted by 740TurboBrick

"Dsms run on Gasoline, DSMers run on Alcohol...Id bring a tank to refuel the DSMers..."

How expensive is fiberglass?
@Dino, thats a pretty damn good idea, but by the time I read this I already cut open my reservoir, pics soon!

97 Talon ESi 14.943@91.35MPH N/A!
"If you need someone to provide an itemized build of materials and a flowchart to walk you through every build-related question you will need to answer at each step of the process, you shouldn't be playing with cars. "-Driggs

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Sorry I wasn't able to help you out more. I installed my intake on my fun car that wasn't using my heater core, I didn't care about the washer resevoir and I also removed my cruise control unit so the throttle cable was WAY more adjustable. I also have the shorter turbo mani that allows more clearance for the TB inlet.

For what it's worth, his turbo intake took me from full spool at 4k, all the way down to 2800 on the tach. It's a bite to the pocket but very worth the investment.

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