That email conversation. Wow. Just wow. There was no reason for that whatsoever.

How many people do you know running a Hahn turbosystem? Would you believe the HRC banner ad on this site is 100% free to HRC in appreciation for all they've done for this community and platform over the years? It's true.

Now, how many people do you know running one of those Tornado intake swirly things? A JET chip/module on their 2GNT/DSM? A supercharger kit?

Groupthink can be good or bad, depending on how it's used.

In the case of every DSMer in the world wanting a GT42R so he can have a 10 second daily driver, it's bad. You can run low 11s on a $400 E316G, but they all think they have to have the biggest and most expensive items from the catalog. They don't want to put in the effort to practice their launch and get that 1/4 mile tamed. They want the car to do it all for them. No responsibility.

However, in our case here, we've got a market of somewhere between 10,000 and 14,000 2GNT owners in a community over ten years old, yet in the last five years, he's sold three kits and 50 adapter sets. Hmmm...

"If it's so easy, why isn't anyone else doing it?"
Ten years ago, these cars, even used, were priced out of the range of the irresponsible teenager. These cars were owned by adults who had discretionary income to spend on modifications, but there were limited choices available so they had to fabricate things themselves.

This is where your VFAQs for things like balance shaft removal or turbo wastegate porting came from. This is where people like Dave Buschur and John Shepherd got their start. Back when "Go fast with class" meant something.

Today, if you can find a super clean 2GNT, you can pick it up for under $5000. The less mint specimens can be had for scarcely more than a grand. When you reach that price point, the market shifts from well-heeled adults to addlepated high school kids who, more often than not, just want wheels and subs.

Those young bucks who have friends who know WTF they're doing under the hood will want to play too and will come online seeking information. Nothing wrong with that, but the community has gone from a spirit of attention to detail and going fast with class, to getting the answer to the question, which is more often than not, along the lines of how to get the most power, as CHEAP as possible and as EASY as possible.

It's not that supercharging a 2GNT is literally easy, like changing a radio out, but it's not rocket science either. The fabrication requirements are on par with a custom turbo manifold. There haven't been more people doing it because there hasn't been a demand for the product.

Why are more people going with the turbo system? Because it's ready to go, there's plenty of support for installation to tuning, to repair, a turbocharger is more efficient, which extends the range of the vehicle, and DSMs are known for being turbocharged beasties.

Why supercharge? To be different. I assume you've seen Ray's twincharged Talon on Youtube by now. Let me pose a question to you based on knowledge of his set up. It's something you'll want to figure out if you still go this route.

The logical place to mount the blower is atop the stock lower intake manifold. Now, since you're eliminating your plenum and relocating your throttle body, if you wanted to AFTERCOOL the charge from the blower, how do you plumb your charge from the blower, to the cooler, and back to the intake manifold?

And now I've gone way too far into this.