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dfreshDec-02-02 08:58 AM
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#13834, "I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"


          

Ok, right now I have 18's and sportlines with stock shocks for now but my girl curbed two wheels and they look like shit, not to metion that I curbed the other two also so, I have 4 curbed wheels and I cant stand it. My buddy has 19 inch Konig blades I think on kis 3g and he is gonning to sell it for a truck. He told me that I could trade my wheels and some money for his 19's since he is selling his car anyway. I was just wanting to know what are the pro's and cons with having 19's. Yes I know the tires will cost more but that is ok, I was really wanting to know how it is gonna effect the way I go over bumps, will it bottom out, will they fit to begin with, will I need spacers so it won't rub. ALL feedback will help me so don't hold back, I want to know everthing I can before I do the trade.

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SynthplayaDec-02-02 12:58 PM
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#13835, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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I personally like 17's... they look good and have size, and the price of tires is pretty good, and they are still pretty light. I think 18's are still worth gettin, but 19's are just too much money for tires and too heavy, they would be nice on a car that doesnt matter about speed, well if you dont care about speed and how heavy they are then its fine, imo they are just too heavy and expensive to replace tires. 17's-18's are the way to go.

  

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9D9 MITSU RSDec-02-02 02:39 PM
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#13836, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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u sure? it's gonna piss u off to no ends if u curb 19's. Be careful 1st.

  

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jerseystyle1Dec-02-02 11:28 PM
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#13837, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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>but my girl curbed two wheels and they look like

FIRST MISTAKE!

>effect the way I go over bumps, will it bottom out, will
>they fit to begin with, will I need spacers so it won't rub.

Depending on the series of tires it will effect how you take bumps. Shouldn't be much different then with 18's. You definitely will need to roll the fenders. As far as spacers are concerned, I have no clue! And if they are off of a 3G they will fit a 2G.

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HiOnPSIDec-03-02 02:02 AM
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#13838, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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Who wants to sell me stock OZ wheels?



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Amish_EclipseDec-03-02 02:29 PM
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#13839, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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besides tires 19's will recquire a heavy drop to make your car look normal. they're also hard on your suspension so if you do this plan your next mods to be koni yellows (no substitues since these have a life time warranty and will be easily replaced when, that's right when, they blow out) front and rear camber kits and some good quality springs. sleeve coils would not be good here if you plan on doing any real driving. if your just crusing then sleeve coils may be alright for you.

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widebodiedDec-03-02 04:39 PM
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#13840, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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>besides tires 19's will recquire a heavy drop to make your
>car look normal. they're also hard on your suspension so if
>you do this plan your next mods to be koni yellows (no
>substitues since these have a life time warranty and will be
>easily replaced when, that's right when, they blow out)
>front and rear camber kits and some good quality springs.
>sleeve coils would not be good here if you plan on doing any
>real driving. if your just crusing then sleeve coils may be
>alright for you.

not being a jackass or anything, but seriously, how would you know? how are they hard on suspension? why would they require a heavy drop? why wouldnt sleeve soils be alright for doing real driving?

thats weird, never had any of the problems that were mentioned in the post or any that you have mentioned, befor i put the air ride back on , i ran a inch drop on 19s (coilovers) and the car looked good, no wheel gap, nice handling, nice ride. im runnin Kmc Suicides right now, they weigh 19lbs a peice with out tires. tires are about 175 a peice for some average tires.

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Originally posted by DSMRoadster
yeah, those of us who are immune to the "2gnt" curse. Curse is a joke, if you have it, it's cuz you have no clue how to play the game.


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widebodiedDec-03-02 04:42 PM
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#13841, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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>Depending on the series of tires it will effect how you take bumps. >Shouldn't be much different then with 18's. You definitely will need >to roll the fenders.

why would he need to roll the fenders, i got 2 buddys on 19s and 1 on 20s, none had to roll there fenders and we are all on air. you dont need to roll your fenders unless your going wide, most fwd 19s or 7-8 inch in width.

Dwayne H
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"PAID THE COST TO BE THE BOSS"

Fully built motor,Hrc stage 3, 19 inch rollers, Big Brakes, Targa top conversion, custom hood,supra taillights, trd wing with cf, kaminari widebody kit, air ride, autometer guages and all of Apexi Sacf, avc-r, rev/speed meter. interior fully glassed, tenzo r seats, pics soon to come!



Originally posted by DSMRoadster
yeah, those of us who are immune to the "2gnt" curse. Curse is a joke, if you have it, it's cuz you have no clue how to play the game.


DISCLAIMER: Some of what I say may upset you, make you cry, or even make you consider suicide. I am not responsible for how your sensitive punk ass decides to take it

The official 2GNT EGO Wrecker

  

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Amish_EclipseDec-04-02 04:43 PM
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#13842, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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>not being a jackass or anything, but seriously, how would
>you know? how are they hard on suspension? why would they
>require a heavy drop? why wouldnt sleeve soils be alright
>for doing real driving?
>
>thats weird, never had any of the problems that were
>mentioned in the post or any that you have mentioned, befor
>i put the air ride back on , i ran a inch drop on 19s
>(coilovers) and the car looked good, no wheel gap, nice
>handling, nice ride. im runnin Kmc Suicides right now, they
>weigh 19lbs a peice with out tires. tires are about 175 a
>peice for some average tires.

i've been working in a garage as a tire and suspension technician for over a year. it's my job to know this. i deal with this everyday from sales people that tell me "just put it on".

they're harder on suspension because you have less tire to absorb vibration and bumps. also since they need more of a drop they depend more on the rest of your suspension

they would recquire a heavy drop in order to remain pleasant looking. this is highly up to the owner but about everyone i know personally on 19's has dropped at least 2.5 inches to get the right affect.

sleeve coils aren't good for real driving becaues of the way they're designed. a sleeve coil is made to be adjustable. so they use a spring that is made to be soft enough to compress it down. unless you use a sleeve coil at the lowest setting your not going to get a great amount of stiffness. also by using the lowest possible setting your risking bottoming out because the spring has less room to travel. a good spring is designed to be low enough for a performance gain and stiff enough to keep the car from bottoming out. since the spring is make with more stiffness in mind it absorbs shock better. since it's still longer than the spring in the sleeve type coil it will travel more and prevent bottoming out and blowing your struts. springs are a better choice. the only thing better than a good spring would be a true coil system. these almost always cost over 1g. the KYB coils cost over 2g's

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widebodiedDec-05-02 03:04 AM
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#13843, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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ive never had a rough ride with them, on air, or on my coil-overs.

>>they would recquire a heavy drop in order to remain pleasant >>looking. this is highly up to the owner but about everyone i know >>personally on 19's has dropped at least 2.5 inches to get the right >>affect.

are these dsm's that is seriously doubtful of a 2.5 inch drop, for everday driving, there tires will be gone in months cuz of the fucked camber, and you cant have a camber kit on a big drop btw on a dsm.

im on air ride, the only time when i drop it to about 3 inch es, is cruising down south side wards(strip) or crowd pleaser. the most i can go is 5.5 inchese and 3's not far, have you ever seen a dsm on 19s, look at any of them, not much of a drop because its not needed on dsm.


Dwayne H
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"PAID THE COST TO BE THE BOSS"

Fully built motor,Hrc stage 3, 19 inch rollers, Big Brakes, Targa top conversion, custom hood,supra taillights, trd wing with cf, kaminari widebody kit, air ride, autometer guages and all of Apexi Sacf, avc-r, rev/speed meter. interior fully glassed, tenzo r seats, pics soon to come!



Originally posted by DSMRoadster
yeah, those of us who are immune to the "2gnt" curse. Curse is a joke, if you have it, it's cuz you have no clue how to play the game.


DISCLAIMER: Some of what I say may upset you, make you cry, or even make you consider suicide. I am not responsible for how your sensitive punk ass decides to take it

The official 2GNT EGO Wrecker

  

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Amish_EclipseDec-05-02 11:40 AM
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#13844, "RE: I need help.......thinking about getting 19's"
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i know your camber would be out that's why i said to get camber kits and yes you can do camber kits on a big drop because it's been done a couple times already.

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