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Teamner947Feb-22-05 07:18 AM
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#1, "Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."




          

About a month ago when I was trying to get my car back on the road, I broke my old IAT sensor - the therads broke off in the manifold and the rest of the sensor was junk. Good thing I had a spare upper intake manifold around, because I couldn't get those threads out for the life of me.



So, I brought the disgruntled manifold and the GM IAT sensor to my local machine shop and they drilled and tapped my "old" manifold to fit the larger GM sensor. I like how it turned out. Looks totally stock!



There's the board. It's been broken for the past few weeks, so I found the time to debug it and discovered that I was powering the board along with 4 injectors off of the stimulator board, which has 2 tiny PCB traces for +12 and ground. If I designed it, I would have made it more like the flyback board with a power plane and a ground plane on oppisite sides of the PCB. Oh well. I fried one of the cheesy power traces while trying to pull enough current to drive 4 crappy old fuel injectors. Fixed. I'm now running the 022e4 code, I will start off with fuel only, then I will hook up the ignition system. I have no idea how stable this code is, it's a new release. Hell, I have no idea if this entire setup will work at all. I've never done this before. However, everything seems to work as it should on the stimulator, but we'll see how it works in the real world. Hopefully I'll get it done over the long weekend. Anyone have a VE map I can start off with? I have stock cams and will be using 780 cc/min injectors.


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grainFeb-18-05 02:00 PM
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#2, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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i would build a flyback board if your going to be running low imp. injectors.

  

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RxR_EclipseFeb-18-05 07:00 PM
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#3, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Feb-18-05 07:07 PM by RxR_Eclipse

          

nice, I have an xtra plentium that I will be doing the same too. I already paid MrSlick for my MS. I have collected up all the sensors/ignition parts and the new injectors. More or less just waiting on the MS unit. Good job on that. These are the fuel injectors I got. Although when I tested the ohm load I came up with the same as my stockers.

Part Number 3105
Static Flow Rate (GAS): 86 lb/hr @ 43.5PSI (300kPa) = 903cc/min, 10.88g/s
Static Flow Rate (Test Solvent): 83 lb/hr @ 43.5PSI (300kPa)
Coil Resistance: 2.35 Ohms / Low Impedance / Low-Z (ECM driver modifications required)

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TeamDR1665Feb-18-05 09:28 PM
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#4, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Feb-18-05 09:28 PM by DR1665

          

Originally posted by RxR_Eclipse
nice, I have an xtra plentium that I will be doing the same too. I already paid MrSlick for my MS. I have collected up all the sensors/ignition parts and the new injectors. More or less just waiting on the MS unit. Good job on that.

Is that a Plentium 4?

I'm in your boat too. My harness and sensors should be in this week and I'm just waiting on Lee to get my MSnS here. (This week, right Lee?)

  

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baxsomFeb-19-05 04:22 AM
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#5, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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do you just need a stock injector harness

i am getting the accessories for a ms unit myself and i already have a spare stock injector harness
so that is something that i dont need to look for



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Ready4DisFeb-19-05 06:20 AM
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#6, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Originally posted by RxR_Eclipse
nice, I have an xtra plentium that I will be doing the same too. I already paid MrSlick for my MS. I have collected up all the sensors/ignition parts and the new injectors. More or less just waiting on the MS unit. Good job on that. These are the fuel injectors I got. Although when I tested the ohm load I came up with the same as my stockers. Part Number 3105 Static Flow Rate (GAS): 86 lb/hr @ 43.5PSI (300kPa) = 903cc/min, 10.88g/s Static Flow Rate (Test Solvent): 83 lb/hr @ 43.5PSI (300kPa) Coil Resistance: 2.35 Ohms / Low Impedance / Low-Z (ECM driver modifications required)


I'm in a similar boat, I have paid Mr. Slick (28th of january) and am awaiting my unit. I have not purchased any sensors or anything, and will be running on my (mostly) stock car for testing before I install a turbo (which I am ordering today). Do you know of any lst of other hardware we need to run fuel + ignition, or a link to another post that mentions them? Mr. Slick said he was backordered a bit when I ordered, hopefully he's caught up soon .

  

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TeamXtremeRSFeb-19-05 07:59 AM
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#7, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Feb-19-05 08:08 AM by XtremeRS

          

Good stuff...I sold my 8 injector setup, and just paid Lee for the MS'n spark setup! This is going to be fun..The plan is to max out the S16g on pump gas

One more thing, where are you guys getting your injectors from?? I found "racetronix.com" where they had the Delphi 780's for like 57 bucks each... http://www.racetronix.com/17113742FM.html


13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)

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djtrickeeFeb-19-05 08:14 AM
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#8, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Originally posted by XtremeRS
I found "racetronix.com" where they had the Delphi 780's for like 57 bucks each... http://www.racetronix.com/17113742FM.html


Those are low impedance injectors. Did you order the flyback board also?

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RxR_EclipseFeb-19-05 08:37 AM
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#9, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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Feb-19-05 08:43 AM by RxR_Eclipse

          

I'm wondering this too, I just remeasured mine and came up with 2.4 vs the stocker @11.8. Slick will I need anything xtra to run these?

States on the MS site that the flyback board is only needed if your using more than 4 injectors with restitance >2.4

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TeamXtremeRSFeb-19-05 10:35 AM
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#10, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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From what I know, Lee runs NO flyback board with the low impedance injectors, and his has been doing just fine. BUT it would prob be best to use the flyback board, just for peace of mind I suppose..

So is that link I posted, where you guys got your injectors? Or where did you get them?


13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)

My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
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-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

  

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TeamAvengerFeb-19-05 10:59 AM
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#11, "RE: Megasquirt stuff... Looks like I'm almost ready."
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The flyback board is only necessary if you're using very low impedence injectors. The ones that Lee is using are around 4 Ohms. Anything less than that you'd probably want to use the flyback board.

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