I don't see why you are so anal on someone else taking the initiative to reprogram our ECU's anyways. I have read these posts for days now. I see It that The guy was saying he will buy one when the prices come down due to competition, not that he wanted to steal any software, or even condoned it. I mean, do you really think 1 company will always control the market for an aftermarket ECU on Eclipse/Talon's? Just cause it has been done doesnt mean someone else out there might design a way to do it as well, better or worst, but different...

I know only the bad of a company seems to show up, and that's because an impression has been made in individuals based on past experiences one has had with a company. And things like being hung up on when trying to find the product you paid for but havent recieved yet is one of them. Yes, you already have the customers money, and in a business sense, you should go on to the next guy, but that's not the way to keep your doors open for a long time... That's the get rich quick scheme that America is caught up in... If the world wasnt so fixated on the all mighty dollar, maby good customer service would come back into fashion. If you make a customer feel secure and all around good about their purchase from you, then they will most likely spread the good news at about the same rate as people that rant from negative experiences.

That's why I am always talking good about Hahn, cause Bill Jr. has always made me welcome to call him anytime, with any concerns I have, whether it be a wrong part, advice for future mods, chit chat about his season in the neon/eclipse, etc... Last week I got the wrong exhaust manifold gasket from Hahn, got ahold of Bill, and he next day air'd 5 more gaskets than I needed, free of charge, shipping free... for my inconvenience.

I am not meaning to be one sided even though it looks like it, I understand that in this case you misunderstood what a group member was meaning about a sensative subject obviously, but if you take care of problems in the correct mannor, a bandwagon effect would not have happened to the last thread. If 90% are pro-howell cause of the great help and prices they have recieved and heard about, and 10% are talking shit, the 90% would set the story straight.

Just my 2 cents