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Originally posted by DR1665
Too much time has passed to edit the above post. After spending some time on the Neon board, I found a lot of the guys are running the Crane 22s. Some even have mix-match sets with something like a 22in/18out. That's crazy. The guy with that set up said it felt like VTEC at 4500rpm. Even more so than figuring out the grinds they're using, I wonder if anyone else could make sense of their cam vs. valvespring failure thread. There is a lot of information in that thread and I liken it to this one. It starts off pretty good, but then gets your eyes to spinning quick. LOL. They also have a thread about Rhoades Lifters that some of them are apparently using with the more aggressive cams. I think I saw something like $150 for a set. That's very respectable imo. I still have some searching to do over there relating to a dual valve spring set up, as I saw mention of them a couple places and would prefer not snapping a Crower spring the first pull to 9krpm with a new, custom cam. So, here's a new question (or a variation of a previous one), what do you guys think about picking up a set of custom Crowers with perhaps a standard C3 exhaust profile, but something more on par with, say, a Crane 22 intake? Pros? Cons? For the record, with the arrival and rebuild of the Galant, Daisy is going to only need to be streetable to make it to autoX, the drag strip, and the Shootout. Thanks.


If you'll watch the video of the neon with 18s on the street you can hear an insane kick in the ass once the car reaches a certain rpm. It just goes crazy. The lighting of the video sucks, but the audio definitely makes up for it. I believe its on the second page of the engine performance and has a celica with sirens in the video.

I'm really wanting someone to piece together a setup that responds very well to forced induction. And I'm sure you'd like a set that runs like a scalded dog NA. Looks like we need some more insight here.


BTW, good call on the crower custom grinds IMO. You also might want to take note of the tensioner failures with the aggressive cams. Alot of guys are drilling and tapping the tensioner mounting bolts with high grade 10mm bolts vs the stockers.

  

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Camshaft discussion & comparison [View all] , TeamAvenger, Apr-20-05 05:13 PM
  RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-06-03 10:01 AM, #1
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-06-03 10:13 AM, #2
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-06-03 10:20 AM, #3
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-06-03 10:24 AM, #4
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-06-03 11:05 AM, #5
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-06-03 04:34 PM, #6
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-07-03 04:15 AM, #7
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-07-03 06:16 PM, #8
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, gzrs99, Mar-08-03 08:17 AM, #9
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-08-03 09:15 AM, #10
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-09-03 12:40 AM, #11
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-10-03 06:46 AM, #12
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-10-03 07:21 AM, #13
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-10-03 06:15 PM, #14
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-10-03 07:03 PM, #15
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-10-03 08:10 PM, #16
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Fast420A, Mar-10-03 10:31 PM, #17
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-13-03 11:19 PM, #18
                                         RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-14-03 03:57 AM, #19
                                              RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-14-03 03:40 PM, #20
                                                   RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-15-03 07:25 PM, #21
                                                        RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-15-03 09:12 PM, #22
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                                                                  RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-17-03 06:21 PM, #24
                                                                       RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-20-03 10:22 AM, #25
                                                                            RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-20-03 12:52 PM, #26
                                                                                 RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, gzrs99, Mar-25-03 10:42 PM, #27
                                                                                      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-26-03 09:50 PM, #28
                                                                                           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, 1TuffRS, Apr-08-03 06:14 PM, #29
                                                                                                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, vegasdsmr, Apr-08-03 08:03 PM, #30
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, Apr-10-03 01:04 PM, #31
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-10-03 05:47 PM, #32
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Apr-10-03 05:57 PM, #33
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-14-03 05:59 AM, #34
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, Apr-14-03 12:46 PM, #35
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, MotoFool, Apr-16-03 06:55 AM, #36
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, 98Turbo420A, Apr-29-03 06:05 PM, #37
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ScarFace19, May-02-03 08:15 PM, #38
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ScarFace19, May-11-03 06:36 AM, #39
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TalonSpeed, May-11-03 12:17 PM, #40
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, May-12-03 04:43 AM, #41
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, May-16-03 09:40 AM, #42
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, May-17-03 05:15 AM, #43
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, May-17-03 08:36 PM, #44
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, May-28-03 06:59 AM, #45
                                         Sam, S-AFC settings?, TeamMichael_97RS, Jun-02-03 11:22 AM, #46
                                              RE: Cams..., wakeboard99, Jun-02-03 12:04 PM, #47
                                              RE: Sam, S-AFC settings?, SEA97GS, Jun-17-03 03:09 PM, #48
                                                   RE:Cams?!, Dark Ringleader, Aug-21-03 05:22 AM, #49
                                                        RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Aug-25-03 05:02 PM, #50
                                                             RE:Cams?!, Eclipse2NR, Oct-27-03 05:19 AM, #51
                                                                  RE:Cams?!, babybeclipse, Nov-24-03 10:09 AM, #52
                                                                       RE:Cams?!, babybeclipse, Nov-24-03 05:32 PM, #53
                                                                            RE:Cams?!, Chamuko, Dec-03-03 02:44 PM, #54
                                                                            RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-18-03 06:36 PM, #55
                                                                                 RE:Cams?!, Dave41079, Dec-19-03 04:01 AM, #56
                                                                                      RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 05:00 AM, #57
                                                                                      RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 06:41 AM, #58
                                                                                           RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 07:19 AM, #59
                                                                                                RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 12:55 PM, #60
                                                                                                     RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 02:04 PM, #61
                                                                                                          RE:Cams?!, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-23-03 05:28 PM, #62
                                                                                                               RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-24-03 05:37 AM, #63
                                                                                                                    RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-24-03 07:14 AM, #64
                                                                                                                         RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-24-03 08:50 AM, #65
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, turbo8u, Dec-24-03 09:15 AM, #66
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-24-03 11:13 AM, #67
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-24-03 11:57 AM, #68
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-24-03 11:58 AM, #69
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-26-03 07:27 AM, #70
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-26-03 04:05 PM, #71
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-27-03 09:05 AM, #72
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-27-03 03:54 PM, #73
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-27-03 11:12 PM, #74
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-29-03 02:19 PM, #75
                                                                                                                                        RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-30-03 08:17 AM, #76
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Jan-09-04 12:10 PM, #77
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, BlueMoonEclipse, Jan-12-04 02:59 PM, #78
                                                                                                                                   WTF have I been..., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:17 AM, #81
                                                                                                                                   holy..., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:17 AM, #82
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 04:19 AM, #79
                                                                                                                                        RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Jan-20-04 04:03 PM, #88
Crower 3 Specs., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 04:22 AM, #80
RE: Crower 3 Specs., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:23 AM, #83
      RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 05:46 AM, #84
      Main cams i want compared, BlueMoonEclipse, Jan-20-04 10:48 AM, #85
           RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 11:02 AM, #86
           RE: Main cams i want compared, cougar694u, Jan-20-04 03:46 PM, #87
                RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-22-04 04:59 AM, #89
                     RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-22-04 05:02 AM, #90
                          RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-22-04 05:16 AM, #91
                               RE: Main cams i want compared, Skrilla, Jan-22-04 05:56 AM, #92
                                    RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-23-04 03:09 AM, #95
                                         RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-23-04 04:00 AM, #96
      RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamDR1665, Jan-22-04 09:37 AM, #93
           RE: Crower 3 Specs., Skrilla, Jan-22-04 12:19 PM, #94
                RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamDR1665, Jan-30-04 12:53 PM, #97
                     RE: Crower 3 Specs., BlueMoonEclipse, Feb-02-04 07:52 AM, #98
                          RE: Crower 3 Specs., cougar694u, Feb-02-04 04:25 PM, #99
                               RE: Crower 3 Specs., BlueMoonEclipse, Feb-03-04 05:57 PM, #100
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Feb-25-04 03:19 PM, #101
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Feb-26-04 08:25 AM, #102
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Mar-11-04 04:15 AM, #103
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, WickedESi, Mar-17-04 11:03 PM, #104
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Mar-21-04 05:33 PM, #105
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, WickedESi, Mar-24-04 11:20 AM, #106
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, BumpinTalon, Apr-28-04 02:20 PM, #107
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Apr-29-04 08:38 AM, #108
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, JWoodley, May-17-04 02:14 PM, #109
The real Crower Stage 3 spec, Teamner947, May-17-04 03:18 PM, #110
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, JWoodley, May-17-04 04:22 PM, #111
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamMichael_97RS, May-18-04 08:29 AM, #112
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamAvenger, May-18-04 05:04 PM, #113
      RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, Teamner947, May-22-04 07:57 AM, #114
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, cougar694u, May-25-04 09:19 AM, #115
      RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamMichael_97RS, May-25-04 10:00 AM, #116
           RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, cougar694u, May-25-04 10:09 AM, #117
                Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, JWoodley, Jul-06-04 04:16 PM, #118
                     RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, brokenrodguy, Aug-24-04 07:51 PM, #119
                     RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, Initial DSM, Aug-25-04 09:13 AM, #120
                     RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, cougar694u, Sep-03-04 10:58 AM, #121
                          RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, JWoodley, Sep-06-04 03:10 PM, #122
                               RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, cougar694u, Sep-14-04 12:44 PM, #123
                                    RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, Chamuko, Apr-06-05 04:50 PM, #124
                                         new cam question, tim97rs, Apr-24-05 03:51 PM, #125
                                              RE: new cam question, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-25-05 06:25 AM, #126
                                              RE: new cam question, cougar694u, Apr-25-05 06:28 AM, #128
                                                   RE: new cam question, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-25-05 06:31 AM, #129
                                              RE: new cam question, cougar694u, Apr-25-05 06:27 AM, #127
                                                   RE: new cam question, TeamDR1665, Dec-21-05 10:55 AM, #130
                                                        RE: new cam question, TeamDR1665, Dec-21-05 12:18 PM, #131
                                                             RE: new cam question, greygoose, Jan-01-06 07:45 PM #132
                                                             RE: new cam question, TeamDR1665, Jan-03-06 04:52 AM, #133
                                                             RE: new cam question, cougar694u, Jan-03-06 05:59 AM, #134
                                                                  RE: new cam question, greygoose, Jan-03-06 08:49 PM, #135
                                                                       RE: new cam question, cougar694u, Jan-04-06 03:27 AM, #136
                                                                            RE: new cam question, greygoose, Jan-04-06 09:01 AM, #137
                                                                                 RE: new cam question, DSMTalon, Oct-05-06 02:28 PM, #138
                                                                                      RE: new cam question, Cyexmaster, Sep-05-09 02:46 PM, #139
                                                                                           RE: new cam question, Teamner947, Nov-18-09 10:41 AM, #140
                                                                                                RE: new cam question, Fasttopass, Feb-16-10 06:35 PM, #141
                                                                                                     RE: new cam question, Cyexmaster, Feb-16-10 08:02 PM, #142
                                                                                                          RE: new cam question, cougar694u, May-24-10 07:43 AM, #143
                                                                                                               RE: new cam question, Cert911, Sep-02-10 06:12 PM, #144
                                                                                                                    RE: new cam question, cougar694u, Sep-02-10 07:46 PM, #145
                                                                                                                         RE: new cam question, bnisson, Oct-19-10 01:37 AM, #150
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, eclipse4g, Sep-07-10 10:34 PM, #146
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Sep-08-10 09:23 AM, #147
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Moderatorteklein, Sep-08-10 10:40 AM, #148
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, 420agreenvilleSC, Sep-08-10 05:14 PM, #149
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, iNoise, Apr-30-11 06:55 PM, #151

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