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TeamMichael_97RSMay-25-04 10:00 AM
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#112388, "RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec"
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Originally posted by cougar694u
Originally posted by ner947 Crower part number 64463, "MITSU 420A ECLIPSE NON TURBO" Intake duration: 258? Exhaust duration: 254? Intake lift: .446" Exhaust lift: .438" (based on rocker arm ratio of 1.75, for both exhaust and intake) Intake valve opens: -3.0? ATDC Intake valve closes: 29.0? ABDC Exhaust valve opens: 35.0? BBDC Exhaust valve closes: -13.0? BTDC Lobe seperation: 110? Duration at .050" lobe lift Intake: 206? Exhaust: 202? Lobe lift Intake: .255" Exhaust: .250" All of this is 100% accurate, seeing as how I have the cam timing tag right in front of me
I'm not questioning you in any way, but what did it say the cam specs were measured at? I'm asking because the specs don't add up, maybe I'm being a dumbass today???? With IVO at 3* BTDC and IVC at 29* ABDC, that's 212* (180* + 29* + 3*) duration on the intake side. The exhaust is measuring 228* duration. It's odd because according to the specs the exhaust cam has more duration, which is common on V8's, but not I4's, but it's listed as have 4* more on intake side. It was funny to me, so I entered them into Desktop Dyno, and it showed the 212/228. Even if the measurements were at .050", it's still wrong, according to the card. Where's this extra 16* duration on exhaust side coming from? The overlap actually isn't that great, either. I'm wondering if the cams were measured at something like .025", but that still doesn't explain the exhaust cam. Maybe the specs on the card are wrong. Can anybody shed some light on this??


Here's you calcs for duration at .050" lobe lift

Intake valve opens 3 degrees after TDC and closes 29 degrees after BDC

180 - 3 + 29 = 206 degrees

Exhaust opens 35 degrees before BDC and Closes 13 before TDC

35 + 180 - 13 = 202 degrees



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Camshaft discussion & comparison [View all] , TeamAvenger, Apr-20-05 05:13 PM
  RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-06-03 10:01 AM, #1
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-06-03 10:13 AM, #2
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-06-03 10:20 AM, #3
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-06-03 10:24 AM, #4
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-06-03 11:05 AM, #5
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-06-03 04:34 PM, #6
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-07-03 04:15 AM, #7
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-07-03 06:16 PM, #8
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, gzrs99, Mar-08-03 08:17 AM, #9
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-08-03 09:15 AM, #10
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-09-03 12:40 AM, #11
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-10-03 06:46 AM, #12
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ModeratorVX100, Mar-10-03 07:21 AM, #13
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-10-03 06:15 PM, #14
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-10-03 07:03 PM, #15
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-10-03 08:10 PM, #16
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Fast420A, Mar-10-03 10:31 PM, #17
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-13-03 11:19 PM, #18
                                         RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-14-03 03:57 AM, #19
                                              RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-14-03 03:40 PM, #20
                                                   RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-15-03 07:25 PM, #21
                                                        RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-15-03 09:12 PM, #22
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                                                                       RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamAvenger, Mar-20-03 10:22 AM, #25
                                                                            RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Mar-20-03 12:52 PM, #26
                                                                                 RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, gzrs99, Mar-25-03 10:42 PM, #27
                                                                                      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Mar-26-03 09:50 PM, #28
                                                                                           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, 1TuffRS, Apr-08-03 06:14 PM, #29
                                                                                                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, vegasdsmr, Apr-08-03 08:03 PM, #30
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, Apr-10-03 01:04 PM, #31
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-10-03 05:47 PM, #32
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, Apr-10-03 05:57 PM, #33
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Apr-14-03 05:59 AM, #34
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, Apr-14-03 12:46 PM, #35
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                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, ScarFace19, May-11-03 06:36 AM, #39
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TalonSpeed, May-11-03 12:17 PM, #40
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, May-12-03 04:43 AM, #41
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, May-16-03 09:40 AM, #42
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, May-17-03 05:15 AM, #43
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMetalJim, May-17-03 08:36 PM, #44
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, SEA97GS, May-28-03 06:59 AM, #45
                                         Sam, S-AFC settings?, TeamMichael_97RS, Jun-02-03 11:22 AM, #46
                                              RE: Cams..., wakeboard99, Jun-02-03 12:04 PM, #47
                                              RE: Sam, S-AFC settings?, SEA97GS, Jun-17-03 03:09 PM, #48
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                                                        RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Aug-25-03 05:02 PM, #50
                                                             RE:Cams?!, Eclipse2NR, Oct-27-03 05:19 AM, #51
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                                                                       RE:Cams?!, babybeclipse, Nov-24-03 05:32 PM, #53
                                                                            RE:Cams?!, Chamuko, Dec-03-03 02:44 PM, #54
                                                                            RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-18-03 06:36 PM, #55
                                                                                 RE:Cams?!, Dave41079, Dec-19-03 04:01 AM, #56
                                                                                      RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 05:00 AM, #57
                                                                                      RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 06:41 AM, #58
                                                                                           RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 07:19 AM, #59
                                                                                                RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-19-03 12:55 PM, #60
                                                                                                     RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-19-03 02:04 PM, #61
                                                                                                          RE:Cams?!, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-23-03 05:28 PM, #62
                                                                                                               RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Dec-24-03 05:37 AM, #63
                                                                                                                    RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-24-03 07:14 AM, #64
                                                                                                                         RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-24-03 08:50 AM, #65
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                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-24-03 11:13 AM, #67
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-24-03 11:57 AM, #68
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-24-03 11:58 AM, #69
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-26-03 07:27 AM, #70
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-26-03 04:05 PM, #71
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-27-03 09:05 AM, #72
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-27-03 03:54 PM, #73
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, Skrilla, Dec-27-03 11:12 PM, #74
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Dec-29-03 02:19 PM, #75
                                                                                                                                        RE:Cams?!, TeamDR1665, Dec-30-03 08:17 AM, #76
                                                                                                                              RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Jan-09-04 12:10 PM, #77
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, BlueMoonEclipse, Jan-12-04 02:59 PM, #78
                                                                                                                                   WTF have I been..., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:17 AM, #81
                                                                                                                                   holy..., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:17 AM, #82
                                                                                                                                   RE:Cams?!, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 04:19 AM, #79
                                                                                                                                        RE:Cams?!, cougar694u, Jan-20-04 04:03 PM, #88
Crower 3 Specs., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 04:22 AM, #80
RE: Crower 3 Specs., Skrilla, Jan-20-04 05:23 AM, #83
      RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 05:46 AM, #84
      Main cams i want compared, BlueMoonEclipse, Jan-20-04 10:48 AM, #85
           RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-20-04 11:02 AM, #86
           RE: Main cams i want compared, cougar694u, Jan-20-04 03:46 PM, #87
                RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-22-04 04:59 AM, #89
                     RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-22-04 05:02 AM, #90
                          RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-22-04 05:16 AM, #91
                               RE: Main cams i want compared, Skrilla, Jan-22-04 05:56 AM, #92
                                    RE: Main cams i want compared, thegame, Jan-23-04 03:09 AM, #95
                                         RE: Main cams i want compared, TeamMichael_97RS, Jan-23-04 04:00 AM, #96
      RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamDR1665, Jan-22-04 09:37 AM, #93
           RE: Crower 3 Specs., Skrilla, Jan-22-04 12:19 PM, #94
                RE: Crower 3 Specs., TeamDR1665, Jan-30-04 12:53 PM, #97
                     RE: Crower 3 Specs., BlueMoonEclipse, Feb-02-04 07:52 AM, #98
                          RE: Crower 3 Specs., cougar694u, Feb-02-04 04:25 PM, #99
                               RE: Crower 3 Specs., BlueMoonEclipse, Feb-03-04 05:57 PM, #100
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Feb-25-04 03:19 PM, #101
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, TeamMichael_97RS, Feb-26-04 08:25 AM, #102
      RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Mar-11-04 04:15 AM, #103
           RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, WickedESi, Mar-17-04 11:03 PM, #104
                RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Mar-21-04 05:33 PM, #105
                     RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, WickedESi, Mar-24-04 11:20 AM, #106
                          RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, BumpinTalon, Apr-28-04 02:20 PM, #107
                               RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Apr-29-04 08:38 AM, #108
                                    RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, JWoodley, May-17-04 02:14 PM, #109
The real Crower Stage 3 spec, Teamner947, May-17-04 03:18 PM, #110
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, JWoodley, May-17-04 04:22 PM, #111
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamMichael_97RS, May-18-04 08:29 AM, #112
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamAvenger, May-18-04 05:04 PM, #113
      RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, Teamner947, May-22-04 07:57 AM, #114
RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, cougar694u, May-25-04 09:19 AM, #115
      RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, TeamMichael_97RS, May-25-04 10:00 AM #116
           RE: The real Crower Stage 3 spec, cougar694u, May-25-04 10:09 AM, #117
                Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, JWoodley, Jul-06-04 04:16 PM, #118
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                          RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, JWoodley, Sep-06-04 03:10 PM, #122
                               RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, cougar694u, Sep-14-04 12:44 PM, #123
                                    RE: Crower 3s vs. Crane #18s, Chamuko, Apr-06-05 04:50 PM, #124
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                                                                                                     RE: new cam question, Cyexmaster, Feb-16-10 08:02 PM, #142
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RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, eclipse4g, Sep-07-10 10:34 PM, #146
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, cougar694u, Sep-08-10 09:23 AM, #147
RE: Camshaft discussion & comparison, Moderatorteklein, Sep-08-10 10:40 AM, #148
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