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catchmeifucan	Dec-29-06 04:27 PM
Member since Aug 20th 2006 44 posts,

#98730, "how to build my own turbo kit??"

Okay i just want to say im retarded and need help building my own turbo kit the only thing ive got is a safc2 and thats it ive got a few ??? 1st
ive seen alot of diff turbo manifolds for our cars that would set the turbo at all diffrent angles i was wondering if thats alright can you pipe it where it doesnt matter?what does a wideband do and do i need one?

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RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, foggy45, Dec-29-06 06:01 PM, #1

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, totaleclipse_05, Dec-29-06 06:43 PM, #2

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, Moderator

cs82685, Dec-29-06 07:13 PM, #3

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, Chamuko, Dec-29-06 09:51 PM, #4

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, donnyb373, Dec-30-06 03:12 AM, #5

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, eclipse982nrRST, Dec-30-06 09:37 AM, #6

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, eclipsekaiser, Dec-30-06 08:16 PM, #7

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, lild14, Jan-01-07 07:03 AM, #8

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, CustomGS, Jan-04-07 09:47 AM, #9

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, Team

etx, Jan-05-07 02:43 AM, #10

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, CustomGS, Jan-05-07 04:13 AM, #11

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, Team

DR1665, Jan-05-07 04:26 AM, #12

RE: how to build my own turbo kit??, CustomGS, Jan-05-07 08:29 AM, #13

foggy45	Dec-29-06 06:01 PM
Member since Dec 28th 2003 1032 posts,

#98731, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Dec-29-06 06:03 PM by foggy45

@#^&^%#*$#$!!!!!
Im sorry
your gonna get jumped and schooled for this one emoji

please please use the search button
there are currently 100 seperate posts with Custom Turbo in the subject alone

and at the very top of this section? OMG LOOK!
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=96054&mesg_id=96054&page=

the easiest answer to your question, is another question

What are your HP goals?

now before you say "1000 hp so i can pwn Supras" get realistic

go to the book store and get Corky Bell's "Maximum Boost" and read it cover to cover TWICE
read EVERY post in the Turbo section, yes every
then when you know what your in for, then come back with specific questions and we will be glad to help.

your actual questions? yes manifold design matters and makes a difference. yes you need a wideband
now the how and why are ALL covered in either the book or the forum

good luck and trust me this is a nice reply

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DR1665- "#5. Spike that motherfucker on the garage floor and grab a beer. You deserve it."

Ahhhh Priceless . . .
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totaleclipse_05	Dec-29-06 06:43 PM
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#98732, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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You don't necessarily need a wideband to get a turbo to work on your car, but if you plan on running more than 8 psi, I would highly suggest gettting one.

Go to the main site wiki and look into the turbo section of the car modifications section. There are some good writeups to read to get an idea of what you will be needing. Also, please try searching next time. That's what it's there for. This type of question has been answered a million times and all you need to do to get your answer is just search a little bit.

Mike D
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Originally posted by DR1665
You're welcome to all the beer you can drink, but you have to go get it yourself. Don't get pissy when we point to the fridge and tell you to get it yourself.

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cs82685	Dec-29-06 07:13 PM
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#98733, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Dec-29-06 07:51 PM by cs82685

Originally posted by foggy45
good luck and trust me this is a nice reply

he's right, that was a nice reply

Originally posted by totaleclipse_05
You don't necessarily need a wideband to get a turbo to work on your car, but if you plan on running more than 8 psi, I would highly suggest gettting one.

^^Also true. It's not needed, but it's highly recommended, also, if you get one like the zeitronix, you can get a boost sensor, egt probe, and a few other add ons and monitor everything with just the zeitronix display. Of course that will run you over $500 which looking at your post in the FS section is near half your current budget.

Another thing, you don't need the SAFC. On our cars it is fairly useless, because you cannot adjust fuel when in boost, so it pretty much just helps clean up your idle a bit with larger injectors i.e. 440's/450's. If you only have 1200, I would sell it and use that money for the rest of your kit.

I'd start by picking up either the star manifold for sale in the FS section by eclipse982nrRST or getting a treadstone manifold on ebay. These will also require you to get an external wastegate. You can also try and get a hahn racecraft manifold, remember that the manifold you get will depend on the turbo you can bolt up to it. The HRC manifold isn't flanged for an external wastegate, so you would be looking into turbos that are internally gated.

Then I'd pick up an ebay intercooler kit, they seem to have good reviews. (Or there was a star FMIC and piping kit for sale a little while ago, I don't know if the guy ever sold it)

THen you're going to have to decide on your turbo

Next big decision is fuel system. You can go as simple as a 12:1 FMU and walbro 255lph pump or choose amongst a number of other things, sfmu, portfueler (expensive), MSnS (would require a ton of reading first, so I wouldn't recommend it to you yet) larger injectors etc.

Once you figure that out you can pick up an already made downpipe, or have one fabbed up at a local shop

Then decide on your gauges

edit: almost forgot you will need either a missing link or an FCD

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
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95 Eclipse GS - parts car
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Chamuko	Dec-29-06 09:51 PM
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#98734, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Member # 751

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(I got kicked out after I refused to go Cow tiping) - Hehehe you know who this is for

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donnyb373	Dec-30-06 03:12 AM
Member since Apr 07th 2004 1122 posts,

#98735, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Originally posted by Chamuko

+1

if you really have to ask this question you need to buy a kit from hahn ripp off or tredstone(sp)

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eclipse982nrRST	Dec-30-06 09:37 AM
Member since Mar 16th 2004 6314 posts,

#98738, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Dec-30-06 09:42 AM by eclipse982nrRST

If you do not know what how to build a turbo kit together, I am guessing your not going to know how it all installs and your going to pay a butt load for a local shop to install something like this. You must also realize, modding your engine like this, your car will have lots of risks and sometimes, even, a lot of problems. A lot of us turbo guys run into a lot of problems and if your not mechanically inclined enough to even diagnose your problem a LITTLE bit, then I would highly recommend you to waiting before you turbo your car. You probably dont know whats all involved money wise and what not. The last thing you want it to slap this turbo kit on just because either a, you wanna go faster or b, you just wanna listen to a BOV ( emoji ) and end up blowing your motor then having to fork out more money to either build a new one or buy a replacement.

I would personally recommend you to buying the Book pictured above. I even have the book I will sell you for $25 shipped.

Trust me, when I was newbie on this board like you are, I had no idea what I was doing. I am not ashaimed to admitt it. I just wanted to go faster...I put a turbo kit on, blew my motor and then was fucked. I took everyones advice from this board, bought the book pictured above, took a night, read the whole book, then I knew the whole concept of turbochargers and how everything works together. Unfortunately, I had to learn the hard way blowing my motor, but sometimes, I am glad it hapened, mainly just because of the beastly engine I have built myself at this point.

Anyway, I could blab all night, good luck with your decisions and dont jump into anything too soon that you do not know what your doing please.

Amen, Alleluia, Fuck me in a goats ass.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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eclipsekaiser	Dec-30-06 08:16 PM
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#98741, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
In response to Reply # 6

What grade did you complete...?

-K-

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lild14	Jan-01-07 07:03 AM
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#98748, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
In response to Reply # 7

since you obviously dont know what the hell you are doing to piece together a kit, buy this......http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eclipse-420a-talon-hahn-racecraft-turbo-kit-neon_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ019QQitemZ290067480897QQrdZ1

its a great start and after reading up on all the info here you'll be able to upgrade and have more fun.

=Dan=

98rs eclipse- Mods: BC2, C/F hood, custom turbo system consisting of a PTE SC50, turbosmart ultra gate (10psi), star FMIC and pipes, SFMU, HKS SSQV, 3" V-BAND downpipe from ATP, Zeitronix Wideband LCD displaying boost, egt and 02. *** SOLD and will be missed***

2006 gsxr 750- jardine gp1 exhaust, -1,+2 stealth sprockets, DID 525 chain, JD products pro TRE. 0-60 in a sneeze. ran a 10.8 avg 1/4 mile my first time to the track on street tires, stock swingarm and unstrapped. emoji

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CustomGS	Jan-04-07 09:47 AM
Member since Jul 15th 2004 668 posts,

#98777, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
In response to Reply # 8

Take their advice. *Or you could go the easy route and just remove your Catalytic Converter from your exhaust and mount a T3/T4/T5hyb67 Turbo in its place. This will suck the exhaust out of your car faster with no need for tuning, thus giving you massive FMIC power worry free. ...Thats what i did...AND I OWN Chrysler Town & Countries ALL DAY LONG!

Chris
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98 Eclipse GS 5 spd- sold
95 Camaro Z28
64.5 Mustang 302 3spd

Originally posted by DR1665
Sometimes, you don't need to pull away to win. You just need to show them they have nowhere to run.

Originally posted by Nine5eclipse03
No, but one time i tried to pee over a car, and pooped my pants.

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etx	Jan-05-07 02:43 AM
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#98785, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
In response to Reply # 9

Originally posted by CustomGS
Take their advice. *Or you could go the easy route and just remove your Catalytic Converter from your exhaust and mount a T3/T4/T5hyb67 Turbo in its place. This will suck the exhaust out of your car faster with no need for tuning, thus giving you massive FMIC power worry free. ...Thats what i did...AND I OWN Chrysler Town & Countries ALL DAY LONG!

Ugh, No. Take this crap to the Pits please.

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CustomGS	Jan-05-07 04:13 AM
Member since Jul 15th 2004 668 posts,

#98786, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Originally posted by etx
Ugh, No. Take this crap to the Pits please.

Ugh, OK. Why dont we just remove the SEARCH button as well since kids like this obviously dont use it. And deserve this shit.

Chris
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98 Eclipse GS 5 spd- sold
95 Camaro Z28
64.5 Mustang 302 3spd

Originally posted by DR1665
Sometimes, you don't need to pull away to win. You just need to show them they have nowhere to run.

Originally posted by Nine5eclipse03
No, but one time i tried to pee over a car, and pooped my pants.

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DR1665	Jan-05-07 04:26 AM
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#98787, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Originally posted by CustomGS

Originally posted by etx Ugh, No. Take this crap to the Pits please.

Ugh, OK. Why dont we just remove the SEARCH button as well since kids like this obviously dont use it. And deserve this shit.

I can feel you on the ugh part, but Derek's right. I am not one of those pussy admins who is all about kissing newbie ass in order to grow the site and keep advertisers happy, but we owe it to ourselves to either point an FNG to the answer or not say anything, ya know?

When you think about it, everyone gets their first beer handed to them. After that, if they're too dumb to find the cooler, they go thirsty. emoji

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CustomGS	Jan-05-07 08:29 AM
Member since Jul 15th 2004 668 posts,

#98790, "RE: how to build my own turbo kit??"
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Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by CustomGS

Originally posted by etx Ugh, No. Take this crap to the Pits please.

Ugh, OK. Why dont we just remove the SEARCH button as well since kids like this obviously dont use it. And deserve this shit.

I can feel you on the ugh part, but Derek's right. I am not one of those pussy admins who is all about kissing newbie ass in order to grow the site and keep advertisers happy, but we owe it to ourselves to either point an FNG to the answer or not say anything, ya know? When you think about it, everyone gets their first beer handed to them. After that, if they're too dumb to find the cooler, they go thirsty. emoji

Thanks brian for THE grown up answer on why not to do what i did. You have my respect. See ya over at Team. Im done here.

Chris
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98 Eclipse GS 5 spd- sold
95 Camaro Z28
64.5 Mustang 302 3spd

Originally posted by DR1665
Sometimes, you don't need to pull away to win. You just need to show them they have nowhere to run.

Originally posted by Nine5eclipse03
No, but one time i tried to pee over a car, and pooped my pants.

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