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ICEMAN	May-09-06 04:29 AM
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#94915, "NOS HELP!!!!"

HELLO, I`M GUATEMALA, AND MY ENGLISH IS NOT SOO GOOD, I HAVE A ECLIPSE RS 96 AND I JUST RECIVED A NOS DRY SYSTEM, BUT I`M HAVING PROBLEMS TO INSTALL IT, FINDING THE FUEL FILTER AND THE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. PLEASE,SOMEBODY, HELP ME, BECAUSE HERE IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, IF SOMEONE INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE KITS OR KNOW WHERE CAN I FIND INFO, I WILL APRICIATE VERY MUCH!!1 THANKS. MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!

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RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-09-06 04:38 AM, #1

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, GSGoinFast, May-09-06 04:44 AM, #2

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 05:00 AM, #3

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-09-06 05:19 AM, #4

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 04:56 AM, #5

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, GSGoinFast, May-09-06 05:13 AM, #6

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 05:33 AM, #7

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-09-06 05:43 AM, #8

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 04:24 PM, #9

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RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-09-06 08:54 AM, #11

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 04:27 PM, #12

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-09-06 04:26 PM, #13

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Rondan97, May-09-06 05:50 PM, #14

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-09-06 06:03 PM, #15

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-10-06 06:50 AM, #16

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-10-06 07:05 AM, #17

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-10-06 07:00 AM, #18

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, Graph-X, May-10-06 07:07 AM, #19

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-10-06 07:10 AM, #20

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, GSGoinFast, May-09-06 04:50 PM, #21

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, baxsom, May-09-06 05:42 PM, #22

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, ICEMAN, May-15-06 07:04 AM, #23

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, 96eclipse2nr, May-15-06 09:37 AM, #24

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, baxsom, May-15-06 11:16 AM, #25

RE: NOS HELP!!!!, DanKid, May-19-06 09:07 AM, #26

Graph-X	May-09-06 04:38 AM
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#94916, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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If this is a dry kit you don't and shouldn't mess with the fuel. Dry kits are nitrous only with no fuel mixed in the spray. All you need to do is run the feed line from your bottle to the engine bay. Then into the solenoid, and from the solenoid into the intake. You're biggest headache (if you can call it that) will be the electrical. I do believe that NOS includes electrical schematics with their kits though.

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GSGoinFast	May-09-06 04:44 AM
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#94917, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by Graph-X
If this is a dry kit you don't and shouldn't mess with the fuel. Dry kits are nitrous only with no fuel mixed in the spray. All you need to do is run the feed line from your bottle to the engine bay. Then into the solenoid, and from the solenoid into the intake. You're biggest headache (if you can call it that) will be the electrical. I do believe that NOS includes electrical schematics with their kits though.

This is WRONG. There is NO nitrous kit that doesn't add fuel when the nitrous is sprayed. Wet kits add fuel themselves by getting fuel from a fuel source and metering it through a properly sized jet that is matched up to the nitrous shot you are running, and dry kits increase fuel pressure through vacuume lines to increase the amount of fuel being put into the engine.

As for the original poster, I'm sorry, I have not installed a dry kit on our cars. All I can do is point you to where the Fpr is. If you have an early 96, the fpr will be on the fuel rail behinde the head on the intake manifold. If you have a late 96 your fpr will be in the back of the car, just infront of the rear passanger side wheel under the car. Hope that helps a little.

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 05:00 AM
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#94920, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by Graph-X If this is a dry kit you don't and shouldn't mess with the fuel. Dry kits are nitrous only with no fuel mixed in the spray. All you need to do is run the feed line from your bottle to the engine bay. Then into the solenoid, and from the solenoid into the intake. You're biggest headache (if you can call it that) will be the electrical. I do believe that NOS includes electrical schematics with their kits though.

This is WRONG. There is NO nitrous kit that doesn't add fuel when the nitrous is sprayed. Wet kits add fuel themselves by getting fuel from a fuel source and metering it through a properly sized jet that is matched up to the nitrous shot you are running, and dry kits increase fuel pressure through vacuume lines to increase the amount of fuel being put into the engine. As for the original poster, I'm sorry, I have not installed a dry kit on our cars. All I can do is point you to where the Fpr is. If you have an early 96, the fpr will be on the fuel rail behinde the head on the intake manifold. If you have a late 96 your fpr will be in the back of the car, just infront of the rear passanger side wheel under the car. Hope that helps a little.

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I WILL TRY TOO FIND IT. QUESTION, YOU DON`T KNOW WHERE IS THE FUEL FILTER???

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Graph-X	May-09-06 05:19 AM
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#94922, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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May-09-06 05:24 AM by Graph-X

Originally posted by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by Graph-X If this is a dry kit you don't and shouldn't mess with the fuel. Dry kits are nitrous only with no fuel mixed in the spray. All you need to do is run the feed line from your bottle to the engine bay. Then into the solenoid, and from the solenoid into the intake. You're biggest headache (if you can call it that) will be the electrical. I do believe that NOS includes electrical schematics with their kits though.

This is WRONG. There is NO nitrous kit that doesn't add fuel when the nitrous is sprayed. Wet kits add fuel themselves by getting fuel from a fuel source and metering it through a properly sized jet that is matched up to the nitrous shot you are running, and dry kits increase fuel pressure through vacuume lines to increase the amount of fuel being put into the engine. As for the original poster, I'm sorry, I have not installed a dry kit on our cars. All I can do is point you to where the Fpr is. If you have an early 96, the fpr will be on the fuel rail behinde the head on the intake manifold. If you have a late 96 your fpr will be in the back of the car, just infront of the rear passanger side wheel under the car. Hope that helps a little.

Maybe I was unclear about my original post. I was under the impression that iceman was trying to feed both nitrous and fuel through one solenoid (which is a dry kit). I understand that the amount fuel needed would increase with increased air from the nitrous. However, the fuel system will compensate on its own (to a point) without having to upgrade. Yes fuel is added into the mix, but not at the jet. I was not aware that he was adding a safety switch as it was not posted in the original post.

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 04:56 AM
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#94919, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
In response to Reply # 1

Originally posted by Graph-X
If this is a dry kit you don't and shouldn't mess with the fuel. Dry kits are nitrous only with no fuel mixed in the spray. All you need to do is run the feed line from your bottle to the engine bay. Then into the solenoid, and from the solenoid into the intake. You're biggest headache (if you can call it that) will be the electrical. I do believe that NOS includes electrical schematics with their kits though.

YEAH, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE TO INSTALL A FUEL PRESSURE SAFETY SWITCH IN THE FUEL FILTER, AND A NOS FILTER IN THE VACUM LINE OF THE FUEL PRESURE REGULATOR, AND THE REST OF THE INSTALLATION, THE PART YOU MENCIONATED, I HOPE NOT TOO HAVE PROBLEMS WHIT IT

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GSGoinFast	May-09-06 05:13 AM
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#94921, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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On the late 96, the fuel filter is back by the fpr. I am not quite sure where it is on the early 96, but I would guess its near the same place. Maybe someone with a early fuel system can tell you.

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 05:33 AM
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#94923, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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ANOTHER THING, IF SOMEONE KNOWS WHERE CAN I INSTALL THE BOTTLE, ANY IDEAS, THERE IS NO ROOM IN THE TRUNK

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Graph-X	May-09-06 05:43 AM
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#94924, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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How big is the bottle?

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 04:24 PM
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#94943, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by Graph-X
How big is the bottle?

MMMM IS A 10LB BOTTLE, LIKE 65 CMS LONG, 20 DIAMETER... (2 FT. 3 INCH APROX, 10 INCH DIAMETER)

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DarkOne	May-09-06 08:46 AM
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#94929, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by ICEMAN
HELLO, I`M GUATEMALA, AND MY ENGLISH IS NOT SOO GOOD, I HAVE A ECLIPSE RS 96 AND I JUST RECIVED A NOS DRY SYSTEM, BUT I`M HAVING PROBLEMS TO INSTALL IT, FINDING THE FUEL FILTER AND THE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. PLEASE,SOMEBODY, HELP ME, BECAUSE HERE IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, IF SOMEONE INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE KITS OR KNOW WHERE CAN I FIND INFO, I WILL APRICIATE VERY MUCH!!1 THANKS. MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT.

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT.

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT.

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT.

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Graph-X	May-09-06 08:54 AM
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#94931, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Can I get some clarification on that? emoji

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 04:27 PM
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#94945, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by Graph-X
Can I get some clarification on that? emoji

YEAH WHY??? emoji

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ICEMAN	May-09-06 04:26 PM
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#94944, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by DarkOne

Originally posted by ICEMAN HELLO, I`M GUATEMALA, AND MY ENGLISH IS NOT SOO GOOD, I HAVE A ECLIPSE RS 96 AND I JUST RECIVED A NOS DRY SYSTEM, BUT I`M HAVING PROBLEMS TO INSTALL IT, FINDING THE FUEL FILTER AND THE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. PLEASE,SOMEBODY, HELP ME, BECAUSE HERE IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, IF SOMEONE INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE KITS OR KNOW WHERE CAN I FIND INFO, I WILL APRICIATE VERY MUCH!!1 THANKS. MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. Clear enough?

MMMMM YA VEO!!! SOO WHAT I HAVE TO DO???? ACORDING WHIT HOLLEY, THIS KIT IS THE RIGHT ONE....

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Rondan97	May-09-06 05:50 PM
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#94951, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by ICEMAN

Originally posted by DarkOne

< [/div> You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. Clear enough?

MMMMM YA VEO!!! SOO WHAT I HAVE TO DO???? ACORDING WHIT HOLLEY, THIS KIT IS THE RIGHT ONE....

96s and above have returnless fuel systems. Unless you have a 95', you'll need a wet nitrous setup. Also the fuel filter for 95s are on the lower firewall under the washer fluid reservoir.

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Graph-X	May-09-06 06:03 PM
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#94953, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by ICEMAN

Originally posted by DarkOne

Originally posted by ICEMAN HELLO, I`M GUATEMALA, AND MY ENGLISH IS NOT SOO GOOD, I HAVE A ECLIPSE RS 96 AND I JUST RECIVED A NOS DRY SYSTEM, BUT I`M HAVING PROBLEMS TO INSTALL IT, FINDING THE FUEL FILTER AND THE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. PLEASE,SOMEBODY, HELP ME, BECAUSE HERE IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, IF SOMEONE INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE KITS OR KNOW WHERE CAN I FIND INFO, I WILL APRICIATE VERY MUCH!!1 THANKS. MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. Clear enough?

MMMMM YA VEO!!! SOO WHAT I HAVE TO DO???? ACORDING WHIT HOLLEY, THIS KIT IS THE RIGHT ONE....

Well, get another (fuel) solenoid and a wet jet and cut into the fuel line, or use the test port on the rail. I would suggest the test port as I'm having some minor issues with leaks since I didn't listen to Dino and cut into the line.

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ICEMAN	May-10-06 06:50 AM
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#94958, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by Graph-X

Originally posted by ICEMAN

Originally posted by DarkOne

Originally posted by ICEMAN HELLO, I`M GUATEMALA, AND MY ENGLISH IS NOT SOO GOOD, I HAVE A ECLIPSE RS 96 AND I JUST RECIVED A NOS DRY SYSTEM, BUT I`M HAVING PROBLEMS TO INSTALL IT, FINDING THE FUEL FILTER AND THE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR. PLEASE,SOMEBODY, HELP ME, BECAUSE HERE IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS NO MUCH INFO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, IF SOMEONE INSTALLED ONE OF THOSE KITS OR KNOW WHERE CAN I FIND INFO, I WILL APRICIATE VERY MUCH!!1 THANKS. MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!

You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. Clear enough?

MMMMM YA VEO!!! SOO WHAT I HAVE TO DO???? ACORDING WHIT HOLLEY, THIS KIT IS THE RIGHT ONE....

Well, get another (fuel) solenoid and a wet jet and cut into the fuel line, or use the test port on the rail. I would suggest the test port as I'm having some minor issues with leaks since I didn't listen to Dino and cut into the line.

WHERE CAN I FIND THE TEST PORT???

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Graph-X	May-10-06 07:05 AM
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#94961, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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On the '95 it's on top of the rail to the left end of the rail. Can't speak for any other year, but I don't see any reason why it would be different

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ICEMAN	May-10-06 07:00 AM
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#94960, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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SOO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I`M NOT SOO GOOD IN ENGLISH, I HAVE TOO BUY A WET CONVERTION KIT???? OR USE THE KIT THAT I HAVE AND USE THE TEST PORT??? AND WHERE IS THE TEST PORT????

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Graph-X	May-10-06 07:07 AM
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#94962, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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Originally posted by ICEMAN
SOO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I`M NOT SOO GOOD IN ENGLISH, I HAVE TOO BUY A WET CONVERTION KIT???? OR USE THE KIT THAT I HAVE AND USE THE TEST PORT??? AND WHERE IS THE TEST PORT????

No, you NEED a WET kit, use the test port to provide fuel to the fuel solenoid.

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ICEMAN	May-10-06 07:10 AM
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#94963, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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OK emoji

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GSGoinFast	May-09-06 04:50 PM
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#94948, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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May-09-06 04:52 PM by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by DarkOne
You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. You cannot install a dry kit on a 96+ 2GNT. Clear enough?

Oh shit Dino is right, I completely forgot about that. hehe its been a while since I was into that nitrous stuff

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baxsom	May-09-06 05:42 PM
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#94950, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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you cannot install a dry kit because of the way the fuel pressure regulator works.

There is no way to increase the fuel pressure on a 96+.

Look at the ZEX website. It sells its wet kits for 96+ and the dry kit for 95.

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ICEMAN	May-15-06 07:04 AM
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#95086, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! MUCHISIMAS GRACIAS!!! ALL THE INFO I GOT WAS VERY USEFUL. NOW I WILL BUY A WET CONVERSION KIT, I HOPE NO HAVE MORE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. NOW ONLY ONE LAST QUESTION, ANYONE KNOWS A GOOD PLACE TOO INSTALL THE BOTLE???

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96eclipse2nr	May-15-06 09:37 AM
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#95089, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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well the only parts youll need in a "conversion kit" are these.

1- fuel solenoid
1- 2'-3' 4an line to run from test port to fuel solenoid
1- 3' 4an line to run from fuel solenoid to nozel
1- wet setup nozel
1- package of assorted fuel jets

also youll need a schrader valve core remover (like used on tire valves stems) in order for you to be able to use your test port for fuel.

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baxsom	May-15-06 11:16 AM
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#95091, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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a lot of people install the bottle on that brace right behind the rear seat.

On dsmtuners.com there is a tech article on how to install a zex wet kit on a 420a. it walks your through step by step including bottle installation

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DanKid	May-19-06 09:07 AM
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#95183, "RE: NOS HELP!!!!"
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I bought a dry venom kit off of some guy from ebay for cheap. I never installed it but when I was looking up info I called venom and spoke to their installation tech and he told me that since the venom kits are computer controlled it doesn't matter if it's a dry kit. They told me that all venom kits are dry and they have no problem installing them on 96-99 2G's.

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