Okay, i spent a little time this evening messing with houston 2GNT's new datalogger, on Joe's car.

I'm having a little trouble figuring this thing out. I'm a datalogger virgin, so i'm not too clear on what i'm doing or what i'm supposed to be looking for. Can any of you guys give me some pointers, advice, tips? What things just don't work for our cars? Any manufacturer specific data files i should download? WTF am i doing? LOL

Help??

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-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

When you plug the datalogger in, it can only see the options that are available for that car. It automatically shows you what the ecu sees.

For example, my roomate's pocketlogger shows airflow in lbs. per minute (what the MAS measures), on his 4G63. And it sees Manifold Absolute Pressure on my car. It automatically shows you what the car can record and monitor.
So when you plug it in to different cars, it will pick up on everything that can be monitored through the info port in the dash.

When you want to monitor or log the data from the car, you go through the menus and options and select what aspects of the car you want to record; such as timing, o2, air flow, intake temp, etc. It will only record what you check off.

I know its kind of hard to understand through a message board, but that is the jist of how it works. You really need to just plug it in and play with it

Hope this helps a little..

-Jeff
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T'd and HRC'd

http://gs.dsmpower.com

lmao..dino said he was a virgin...do like me and keep poking around till u hit the right spot.

http://geocities.com/shogunltw/
People that say "money is the root of all evil" dont have any. BR
auto- star stage III 15psi & rising

http://www.geocities.com/shogunltw
HOUSTON 2gnt
auto-star stage III 18psi..."hey tranny u still there"??

LOL!

Shaddap, Joe!

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-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

anyone??, i wanna tune my car! >=< [br />
http://geocities.com/shogunltw/
People that say "money is the root of all evil" dont have any. BR
auto- star stage III 15psi & rising

http://www.geocities.com/shogunltw
HOUSTON 2gnt
auto-star stage III 18psi..."hey tranny u still there"??

you guys need to figure this shit out. I need to get in the 12's

stage BIG custom mj racing turbo set up, built block.worked head,all tial components, hks evcez,spearco 992,oh yeah and a huge bottle in the trunk last run all turbo 13.8@108 no nos dyno'd at AEBS in Cali with 300+ hp to the wheels

HAHA .. we will, we will!

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-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE:
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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

Umm....what do you want to know?

I thought I answered your questions.... guess not...

be a bit more specific.


-Jeff
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T'd and HRC'd

http://gs.dsmpower.com

Nah, it's cool. We just haven't had a chance to sit down and look at it all. just need playtime.

What we need to do is get a baseline.. somebody mostly stock and datalog them to tune against. At this point i have no idea if 15 degrees advance at WOT, 14PSI in the middle of Joe's second gear is good or not..

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-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE:
http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/
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Somehow, the Proud Owner of not-your.biz

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

I can unhook my afc so we can get an AT baseline too. It's nice and simple to unhook. You guys are having too much with that thing on the wrong side of town ... we get all the toys after I start working ... now that just doesn't seem fair.


-Avenger
99 Eclipse RS
Power up with 2 scoops of candy coated kaboom.

Dino, I wrote a thread about the same thing a while ago but nobody replied to that point...

My timing is pulled to 15 degrees at WOT too. I think that is as far as the ECU can take it. I want to see someone with a stock car datalog in order to see if that happens all the time, or if we are just getting enough knock to force the ecu to retard timing as much as possible.

If it is a direct result of knock, I am beating the shit out of my engine and apparently Joe is too.


-Jeff
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T'd and HRC'd

http://gs.dsmpower.com

Can our ECU's be reprogrammed?? I was wondering, I will need something to handle 625cc injecters but if our ecu's can be reprogrammed to handle that then I dont need that Accel DFI or the Haltech E6k or whatever it is...

Robert Parkhurst
toykilla@comcast.net

Nope. DFI or a E6K is the only way.

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-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE:
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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

Actually,

Part of the problem is that is all our car can pull timing. No matter how much knock you get it can not pull timing past 15deg, or so it seems. This is something we saw on Armonds Avenger as well. With the MSD, you can pull more timing out. Now what you should be seeing to be honest I do now know. I have no idea what my timing is either. I need to datalog my car some when I get home just so that I can see.

MuRiX
97 Eclipse GS HRC Stage IV+
Sitting and collecting dust most of the time..
A.D.P.
http://www.murix.com

05 Mazda RX-8
06 Lotus Elise

Well the entire point is not to pull your timing you want it at least in the high teens.

Its great that the MSD can do that, but you'll end up going slower in the long run. Less boost and better timing makes for a much faster car than gobs of boost and crap for timing.
The idea would be so the car doesn't need to retard the timing. There should be no knock.

Doesn't anyone out there have a stock car they can datalog?

I might give Hahn a call and see what he thinks.


-Jeff
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T'd and HRC'd

http://gs.dsmpower.com

Yes, do that please.

This weekend sometime (probably Friday night before i start drinking ) we're going to datalog both Thura's mostly-stock auto RS and Jason's mostly-stock 5spd GS. Nothing they have should cause the ECU to pull timing.

We'll see what we see.. And i'll keep you informed.

_____________________________________________
-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE:
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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

weee.. i get to be a baseline... oh how special i am...
-Jason



95 GS

Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings

-Jason

97 Talon ESi-T (forever in progress...)


95 GS (Gone)
16.74@83.18mph
119.8 whp - 113.3 lbs/ft


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would you mind sharing the datalog with the rest of us? i'm interested as well.

My email is vlima@csc.com

Thanks,
Vinnie
www.asog.net

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1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
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I just looked at a couple of my datalogged passes from this summer. Right after launching the timing drops right to 15 degrees and stays there for the most part while at WOT. I wonder if the ecu does this automatically at "x" throttle position to eliminate the chance of knock since the ecu doesn't use the knock sum for anything else. Maybe that's why our motors grenade so well at the first sign of detonation. Any thoughts?

Greg
99 GS HRC Stage 2

Greg

'19 Genesis G70 3.3t AWD
'88 Chrysler Conquest TSI

My timing stayed at 27 degrees until I got knock, then it dropped liek a rock to 15.

I need a datalogger, where can I get one and how much do they run?????

Robert Parkhurst
toykilla@comcast.net

see http://www.obd-2.com

_____________________________________________
-Dino Yancey
Hello me, it's Me Again!


For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE:
http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/
No MP3 for YOU!
Somehow, the Proud Owner of not-your.biz

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

so you need a laptop to use this thing???

Robert Parkhurst
toykilla@comcast.net

yup, it will work with a laptop as old as a 386, as long as it has windows. You can find one that will work for it on ebay for like $50 - $100


Contemplating turbo. . . . . . .

http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING
Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

http://www.extreme420a.com

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

will the same laptop beable to run the Accel DFI im getting pretty soon or will I need one faster?? I still havent found any information on what it needs to work that thing...

Robert Parkhurst
toykilla@comcast.net

I'm not sure on that, I would go to accel's website and download the PDF file on it, I have it saved on my computer at home so I know it's on their site.

Contemplating turbo. . . . . . .

http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING
Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

http://www.extreme420a.com

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...