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StealthfoxJan-06-06 07:05 PM
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#92605, "MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"


          

I'm getting ready to install my 14b setup. I know there is a writeup on here for the wastegate actuator arm to be set so the wastegate opens at a lower psi since I'm on stock internals.

I have bought a homemade MBC from a fellow 2gnt-er. I was wondering if I should set the wastegate to open at like 3 or 4 psi, and then just mess around with MBC to run what i feel like running (up to 8psi) for that time period???

Am I missing something because I read that a MBC restricts the vaccum pressure so there is actually more psi that is building before the wastegate opens. But as I understand it the MBC doesn't work in the opposite situation. You can't have a wastegate spring that is set to open at 10psi and have a MBC that is set at 7psi and actually have the wastegate open at 7psi, correct???

If I am right, and have not misunderstood, than I think setting the wastegate to open low and then use my MBC to control the psi is my best bet since I will have a larger range of control. Any opinions/suggestions/criticisms are welcome.


-Fox

  

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RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, RxR_Eclipse, Jan-07-06 05:17 AM, #1
RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, GSGoinFast, Jan-10-06 01:53 PM, #2
      RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, rs_smoked_you, Jan-10-06 02:26 PM, #3
           RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, GSGoinFast, Jan-11-06 09:32 AM, #4
                RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, ForceFed420a, Jan-11-06 10:01 AM, #5
                     RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, GSGoinFast, Jan-11-06 03:04 PM, #6
                          RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, XMasta19, Jan-11-06 10:53 PM, #7
                               RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, ameclipse, Jan-28-06 12:20 PM, #8
                                    RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator, Moderatorcs82685, Jan-29-06 03:15 AM, #9

RxR_EclipseJan-07-06 05:17 AM
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#92607, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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sounds about right. Set the spring to open at 3-4 psi and use your MBC to control how much more boost you want to see...

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GSGoinFastJan-10-06 01:53 PM
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#92655, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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Yea thats exactly what I did. Without my MBC my wastegate opens at 3 psi. but I used the MBC to raise it to 8 psi.

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rs_smoked_youJan-10-06 02:26 PM
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#92656, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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so if you loosen the wastegate arm ittl make it open earlier?

  

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GSGoinFastJan-11-06 09:32 AM
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#92670, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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Originally posted by rs_smoked_you
so if you loosen the wastegate arm ittl make it open earlier?


What? No, you put pressure on the arm pushing away from the actuator via a spring you put on the arm, and that will make the wastegate open earlier.

-Chris
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ForceFed420aJan-11-06 10:01 AM
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#92671, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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This is what Chris is describing.


http://www.denverspeed.com/wastegates.html


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GSGoinFastJan-11-06 03:04 PM
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#92674, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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Jan-11-06 03:06 PM by GSGoinFast



          

Originally posted by ForceFed420a
This is what Chris is describing. http://www.denverspeed.com/wastegates.html Brian


Hmmm that link isn't working for me but I remember that was the website I found it at.

Here, scroll down to the very bottom for pictures of what mine looks like.
http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=85

-Chris
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#92680, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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I just modded mine and did so w/o any cutting/welding...it's pretty simple actually. I wrote a tech article for it on tuners, but the site is being ghey and won't let me post it.

-Xavier-
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ameclipseJan-28-06 12:20 PM
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#93046, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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Can i just not mod the actuator and just run the mbc?

  

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Moderatorcs82685Jan-29-06 03:15 AM
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#93051, "RE: MBC vs. Wastegate Actuator"
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if you don't mod the actuator your gonna run whatever the stock boost is for the 14b which i think is around 12psi (someone correct me if i'm wrong) regardless its more than you should boost on a stock bottom end, so your gonna have to mod it


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