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eclipse982nrRSTOct-12-05 10:43 AM
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#90577, "I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."


          

I cannot decide which turbo I should upgrade to and need a little input on which I should go with.

Either A: A Super T70 T3/T4 with the .68a/r with 3" exhaust outlet.

OR

B: A 60-1 t3/t4 with .63a/r with 2.5" exhaust outlet.

I am running the t3/t4 e50 right now and I just want more power. Its good for what I am running, but when I go MS over winter, I am looking into 22psi and I just want a good turbo.

Now, I know both turbo's are going to spool up fast and quickly, but I just dont know which to buy.

Input please? Debate this for me. I am buying it Friday, so I wanted some input before I bought the one I was going to go with (was planning on the t70.)

-MIKE-

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RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., WickedESi, Oct-12-05 10:46 AM, #1
RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-12-05 10:49 AM, #2
      RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., BumpinTalon, Oct-12-05 11:25 AM, #3
           RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., XMasta19, Oct-12-05 12:33 PM, #4
           RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., freddy_00_69, Oct-12-05 12:37 PM, #5
                RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., BumpinTalon, Oct-12-05 01:03 PM, #6
                     RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., Blizare, Oct-12-05 02:25 PM, #7
                          RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-12-05 03:14 PM, #8
                               RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-12-05 03:44 PM, #9
                                    RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse_99rs, Oct-12-05 04:01 PM, #10
                                         RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-12-05 04:24 PM, #11
                                              RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., BumpinTalon, Oct-12-05 05:08 PM, #12
                                                   RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's., eclipse982nrRST, Oct-13-05 01:27 AM, #13
                                                        What piping?, eclipse982nrRST, Oct-13-05 09:42 AM, #14
                                                             RE: What piping?, eclipse982nrRST, Oct-13-05 09:48 AM, #15
                                                                  RE: What piping?, CrazyEclipse, Oct-14-05 06:35 AM, #16
                                                                       RE: What piping?, djtrickee, Oct-14-05 07:37 AM, #17
                                                                            RE: What piping?, eclipse982nrRST, Oct-14-05 08:58 AM, #18
                                                                                 RE: What piping?, rs-pssst, Oct-16-05 07:26 PM, #19

WickedESiOct-12-05 10:46 AM
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#90578, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Post the compressor maps and I can tell your exactly which one you'd want.


Joel Baldridge, ASE Certified Master Technician, Audi Certified Expert Technician

  

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eclipse982nrRSTOct-12-05 10:49 AM
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#90579, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Oh ya forgot to ask as well, which is better, 2.25" i/c piping or 2.5" piping because I am getting all new piping and i/c too emoji

For compressor maps, here are the 2 turbo's I am looking at:

Now you tell me which I should get....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8005730345&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8005589799&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

-MIKE-

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BumpinTalonOct-12-05 11:25 AM
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#90584, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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AUGH neither of them!! One is an XSPower (SSautochrome) and the other, only god knows, do not get a turbo off eBay!


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XMasta19Oct-12-05 12:33 PM
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#90588, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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you're lookin for a nice big turbo, and yet you're eying less than $400 ebay turbos.....ruh roh


Go with a known vendor/site, and you'll get t3h quality you pay for.

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freddy_00_69Oct-12-05 12:37 PM
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#90589, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Originally posted by BumpinTalon
AUGH neither of them!! One is an XSPower (SSautochrome) and the other, only god knows, do not get a turbo off eBay!


I learned that lesson along time ago. Dont buy it thinking it is brand new and only $400. There are smaller turbos brand new that cost more than that. Go big, but dont go cheap. Getting more power is not cheap, that is why bigger turbos are more expensive, save your money and get a big nice turbo from a vendor that has a good reputation.



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Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

  

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BumpinTalonOct-12-05 01:03 PM
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#90590, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Originally posted by freddy_00_69
Originally posted by BumpinTalon AUGH neither of them!! One is an XSPower (SSautochrome) and the other, only god knows, do not get a turbo off eBay!
I learned that lesson along time ago. Dont buy it thinking it is brand new and only $400. There are smaller turbos brand new that cost more than that. Go big, but dont go cheap. Getting more power is not cheap, that is why bigger turbos are more expensive, save your money and get a big nice turbo from a vendor that has a good reputation.


word

The polished housing looks nice, but he probably polished the housing (which costs like $30 if you do it yourself) to make the turbo seem oh so much better ,when really it is a piece of crap.


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#90595, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Oct-12-05 02:26 PM by Blizare



          

oh god please don't buy that. the turbonetics os nice but not the ss one.

Dood.

Go outside and look at your car for a second mmmkay.

....


....

You didn't skimp anywhere else?

Okay Now do you want the towtruck to come pick up your phatass car and have to tell him "uhhh....my compressor housing fell apart"

Spend A LOT more money on a turbo than that.

Please buy this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/GT30R-500-hp-BB-GARRETT-Turbo-HKS-APEX-GREDDY-NISMO_W0QQitemZ4580105030QQcategoryZ43808QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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eclipse982nrRSTOct-12-05 03:14 PM
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#90601, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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LOL Guys, I am not buying those Turbo's off ebay. Those were the pics I was looking at of trim sizes and shit. lol

I am sending my e50 to Turbonetics and they are keeping it and I can upgrade to whatever I want for a higher cost. I just dont know what trim size and shit to uprgrade to, lol.

-MIKE-

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eclipse982nrRSTOct-12-05 03:44 PM
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#90602, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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2 things:

1. no one said which i/c piping is going to be best, 2.25" or 2.5" ?

2. i talked to guy online who has an xspower (ss autochrome) turbo and he said he has been running it for over a year and he said he has had no probs with it and he just always turbo times it.

the only reason I am bringing this up is because I am not actually thinking of buying that turbo, lol. if i could keep my e50 and just buy that one, it would work out i guess, lol.

I talked to Dino yesterday on AIM for a brief second, he said for that price, its worth it.

Discuss.

-MIKE-

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eclipse_99rsOct-12-05 04:01 PM
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#90603, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Oh fiew for a minute there i thaught i was going to have to slap you silly.



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eclipse982nrRSTOct-12-05 04:24 PM
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#90604, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Check out this auction:
He said he would sell me this for $500 shipped.
he says it has garrett internals with standard housings.

seems okay, looks good. whatcha think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-T3-T4-Ball-Bearing-61mm-Turbo-Garrett-turbonetics_W0QQitemZ8005496557QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

-MIKE-

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#90607, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Oct-12-05 05:09 PM by BumpinTalon



          

that looks like a nice turbo... but he is selling it kinda cheap. a few people have said he sells XSpower instead of Garrett genuine parts... and the T3/T4 61mm ball bearing bit is a little unusual, I know you can get ball bearing T3/T4s from Turbonetics, but the Garrett replacement CHRA that changes a regular T3/T4 into a ball bearing turbo costs $800 plus rebuild on its own from ATPturbo.com... this is all kinds of suspicious


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#90616, "RE: I cant decide between these 2 turbo's."
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Originally posted by BumpinTalon
that looks like a nice turbo... but he is selling it kinda cheap. a few people have said he sells XSpower instead of Garrett genuine parts... and the T3/T4 61mm ball bearing bit is a little unusual, I know you can get ball bearing T3/T4s from Turbonetics, but the Garrett replacement CHRA that changes a regular T3/T4 into a ball bearing turbo costs $800 plus rebuild on its own from ATPturbo.com... this is all kinds of suspicious


Its ebay, what do you expect, lol.

I think i am going to shoot for one these and just try one out. If it fails, I will still have the e50 to back it up.

-MIKE-

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eclipse982nrRSTOct-13-05 09:42 AM
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#90629, "What piping?"
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Okay, I picked out the turbo, you guys will be impressed on which I ordered, dont worry, its not some junk xspower or anything like that emoji

i need to know though, I am getting new piping with a new i/c i ordered and dont know which is better to use, 2.25" or 2.5"?

thanks!

-MIKE-

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#90630, "RE: What piping?"
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Oh okay, I found a good forum while searching on here.

says in a nut shell, the bigger your inlet, the bigger piping would be best. i have a pretty big inlet on my new turbo coming, so im going with the bigger piping emoji

-MIKE-

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#90654, "RE: What piping?"
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Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Oh okay, I found a good forum while searching on here. says in a nut shell, the bigger your inlet, the bigger piping would be best. i have a pretty big inlet on my new turbo coming, so im going with the bigger piping emoji


well duhhhh. You should know the bigger the pipe, the more air can flow, the better! Now buy me a bigger turbo please. emoji FP3065 please


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#90658, "RE: What piping?"
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and learn how to use the edit post button. Its like you're having a conversation with yourself in this thread...

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#90660, "RE: What piping?"
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Originally posted by djtrickee
and learn how to use the edit post button. Its like you're having a conversation with yourself in this thread...


I was.

-MIKE-

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#90712, "RE: What piping?"
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If your looking for a cheaper turbo, why not an sc61? Sign up on the honda-tech forums and search the market-place. I believe you could pick it up for around 700

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1244159

  

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