Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 0 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Turbo/Nitrous Tech topic #90319
View in linear mode

Subject: "Questions before turbo install" Previous topic | Next topic
DarkEclips96Oct-04-05 11:53 AM
Member since May 23rd 2005
399 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90319, "Questions before turbo install"
Oct-04-05 11:54 AM by DarkEclips96



          

I talked to my friend who has a small garage and we are going to try and complete the installation this weekend. Just have a few questions on what left to buy with what money I have left.

1. Have the cartech but heard too many horrer stories, I cant afford a SFMU at this time so would upgrading to a Vortech FMU still be a good idea?

2. I dont want to blow my motor and I know my wastegate is set for 9psi. but run at 8psi cause of intercooler, I would like to lower this to like 6. http://www.denverspeed.com/wastegates.html. <--Is that the only way of doing this or is there something simpler.

3. Another reason to lower boost is cause Im still looking for a EGT that, is there anyway I can tap the manifold and plug it off till I buy one of would it just be easier to wait.

4. I have 26 lbs injectors that came with the kit, but everyone seems to go with 30lb or higher, will these do for the boost i want to run without causing problems?

5. Should I just go ahead and get the missing link so minimize problems.

6. Where you guys get the teflon paste?? places around here only have the tape.

You can probably tell im afraid im going to blow the motor up and I just cant afford a rebuild right now.


2002 WRX
Eclipse RS-T..sold

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: Questions before turbo install, youkickedmydog, Oct-04-05 01:12 PM, #1
RE: Questions before turbo install, tim97rs, Oct-04-05 02:57 PM, #2
      RE: Questions before turbo install, boosted60trimrst, Oct-04-05 07:35 PM, #3
      RE: Questions before turbo install, tim97rs, Oct-05-05 06:06 AM, #4
           RE: Questions before turbo install, techboy, Oct-05-05 07:18 AM, #5
           RE: Questions before turbo install, TeamAvenger, Oct-05-05 09:16 AM, #6
      RE: Questions before turbo install, DarkEclips96, Oct-05-05 08:43 AM, #7
           RE: Questions before turbo install, tim97rs, Oct-05-05 09:28 AM, #8

youkickedmydogOct-04-05 01:12 PM
Member since Aug 16th 2004
290 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90322, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 0




          

My friend is taking fluid mechanics, run a 3 inch intake pipe from the ic to the tb, that should lower your psi, how much I am not sure.

Originally posted by oRACLe063
that not just any aluminum foil son !!! that reynolds wrap..lol its like the greddy of the aluminum foil world

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
tim97rsOct-04-05 02:57 PM
Donating 2GNT member
4255 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90325, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 1
Oct-04-05 02:59 PM by tim97rs

          

Originally posted by youkickedmydog
My friend is taking fluid mechanics, run a 3 inch intake pipe from the ic to the tb, that should lower your psi, how much I am not sure.

No. although im not sure what fluid mechanics has to do with it, You want smaller diameter pipe from your IC to your TB, the reason being is that the cooler air from the IC will be more condenced. it will not lower your PSi to have a bigger pipe. it will still charge that pipe to the PSI that your wastegate will allow. you will only have a big bottl-neck restriction for the air to flow around at the TB if you ran 3". that isnt preferable.

Originally posted by DarkEclips96 I dont want to blow my motor and I know my wastegate is set for 9psi. but run at 8psi cause of intercooler, I would like to lower this to like 6. http://www.denverspeed.com/wastegates.html. <--Is that the only way of doing this or is there something simpler.

yes, thats the only way to get less PSI from your wastegate. thats what i did on my first custom kit. it worked great!

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
boosted60trimrstOct-04-05 07:35 PM
Member since Sep 10th 2005
1183 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90333, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 2
Oct-04-05 07:40 PM by boosted60trimrst



          

for 6 psi you can run your stock injectors . as for fmu its probably worth it to save a bit more and get the sfmu . you can get teflon paste at home depot .you should wait on the the egt gauge because you dont know what size hole you need to tap for the probe unless you know exactly which one your gettin then you can just plug it with a npt fitting . as far as the missing link ,i personally think it sucks . just build a voltage clamp ,it also a lot cheaper.

LED tails : Done for now!
99 eclipse rst
cobalt blue met. paint,star stage 2 upgraded t3/t460trim turbo ceramic coated , polished compressor housing, ,optima yellow top, chrome i/c piping ,front mount ntercooler ,apexi turbo timer . zeitronix wb02 ,faze oil ,boost gauge,egt ,bosch 4x plugs,kyb agx struts, pro kit springs.17''adr venomous rims,Falken azenis ,brembo dilled/slotted rotors ,turbo xs bov ,oil catch can,manual shiftknob,autometer pyrometer egt , vortech sfmu,b&m fuel pressure gauge ,accel 310cc injectors ,gasketmatched and polished intake manifold ,58mm throttle body ,no egr,polished turbonetics wastegate,fuel pump rewire,homade fcd and a lot more .LED reverse lights ,sidemarkers and tails .atx to mtx swap . South bend tz clutch . Tons more
http://imageshack.us>


http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=boosted60trimrst
My contribution to the wiki
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=crank%20arm%20spindle%20mod%20to%20fit%20power%20panels

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
tim97rsOct-05-05 06:06 AM
Donating 2GNT member
4255 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90343, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 3


          

Originally posted by boosted60trimrst
as far as the missing link ,i personally think it sucks . just build a voltage clamp


Wow, thats intersting... i've not heard that from anyone before... usualy its the other way around. cool, glad it works for ya...

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
techboyOct-05-05 07:18 AM
Member since May 20th 2002
1662 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90345, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 4


          

Yeah, I agree, I give a vote FOR the ML. I had the "black box" for like 2 weeks and then upgraded to the ML. No problems since and it took away my CEL. For 55 bucks, get the ML.

Teflon paste can be found at Home Depot (as mentioned) in the plumbing section. It comes in a black and white tube. Use it on all your fuel and oil fittings. I had an oil passage get blocked using teflon tape = bad experience.

26lbs injectors are fine for 6lbs. of boost. You won't be satisfied for long though - you'll want more boost and want to upgrade later. If you can't afford it right now my advice would be to save your money, use the Cartech regulator (if it's new you shouldn't have too much trouble just yet) and save the money you'd spend on an FMU for a SMFU and bigger injectors. I personally believe the reason the Cartechs get sloppy in their fuel management is b/c the fuel breaks down the diaphram inside over time. Just my opinion.

-or-

Spend the FMU money on an EGT now! An EGT guage is probably one of the most important gauges you can get. It'll tell you ton about your fuel situation and how your car is running. It's quite easy to tap the manifold. I recommend for the time it takes to take it off the car, do it off the car. You can do it on the car though.

Good luck with the setup. Boosting is a lot of fun, and a lot of work to maintain. But if you enjoy being under your hood you'll never look back emoji


1999 Eclipse GST 4G63

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
TeamAvengerOct-05-05 09:16 AM
Old School 2GNTer
2453 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90354, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 4




          

Originally posted by tim97rs
Originally posted by boosted60trimrst as far as the missing link ,i personally think it sucks . just build a voltage clamp
Wow, thats intersting... i've not heard that from anyone before... usualy its the other way around. cool, glad it works for ya...


Here's a vote against the missing link. I don't like it. I'll take a properly constructed and designed voltage clamp over a check valve (for our stock MAP sensor situation) ANY DAY!

This is what my missing link did ...

Still just let a hair of positive pressure past to allow me to fuel cut
Prevented my MAP from seeing all the vacuum generated at idle and cruise

Sure it could be cleaned but I don't want to be driving around and have a dirty MS cause all my fuel trims go nuts (I was running a rising rate FPR at the time). With the voltage clamp I know exactly what its going to do and under what condition. When voltage comes to 4.7v it's stops it there and never allows anything greater to be sent to the ECU. With the MS, the check valve is in play under all conditions ... vacuum, boost, whatever ... it's there and it's doing something.

That's just my $0.02.



-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft emoji

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
DarkEclips96Oct-05-05 08:43 AM
Member since May 23rd 2005
399 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90351, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 2
Oct-05-05 08:48 AM by DarkEclips96



          

" yes, thats the only way to get less PSI from your wastegate. thats what i did on my first custom kit. it worked great!"


Alright, well do you know what size die I should use on the wastegate?, might as well get it when I get the paste. Oh yea, anything else i will need for the wastegate mod? Thanks


2002 WRX
Eclipse RS-T..sold

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
tim97rsOct-05-05 09:28 AM
Donating 2GNT member
4255 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#90355, "RE: Questions before turbo install"
In response to Reply # 7
Oct-05-05 09:30 AM by tim97rs

          

Originally posted by DarkEclips96
Alright, well do you know what size die I should use on the wastegate?, might as well get it when I get the paste. Oh yea, anything else i will need for the wastegate mod? Thanks


these are pics of it. the bottom one is mine, the top is from someone else (i think, cant remeber) also, do a search on "wastegate mod", theres some more info on thisfloating around here. the die is what ever you decide to use, or its dependant on what the thread and pitch size is of the turnbuckle. i recommend a vaccum/pressure pump with a gauge to get yout wastegate set at so you know where its at before you run it.
EDIT i guess they are both mine at differnt stages of "seeing what worked after clocking the compressor... but you get the idea...

USED TO HAVE...Everything you wish you had, and then some...

You are somebody special Tim, you matter! - from the admins (but nobody likes you, because your username is just like that other guy's, and you whine a lot)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Turbo/Nitrous Tech topic #90319 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.053 seconds, executing 30 queries.