i got a 95 talon esi turbo, got it cheap because the turbo setup was fucked, but anyway.. i just drove it home about a mile and a half, and even tho most of the issues were sorted out (or so he said), the turbo is smoking.. smells like coolant though, might just have spilled some topping it up, so we'll see what happens with that.. but it also has some shaft play i don't think was there when i left

i am not sure why that may be. i looked the whole thing over before i left, the oil send is a -4AN SS braided line that comes from behind the block and goes to the top of the turbo... it is definitely getting oil... and the oil return looks like a 3/8" NPT flange, to a -8AN fitting, and then it looks like he put a -8AN hose end and then there is a big rubber hose to the pan, which has a -8AN bung welded right into it with the same -8AN hose end. no leaks from either the turbo or oil pan side.

but i was searching on here and it sounded like you were supposed to put the bung towards the third bolt hole, right at the top. this bung is by the second bolt hole (from the left), about an inch and a half down, maybe 1.25"

that may be an issue? the hose also hangs below the drain right now, but as i thought about it i figured this would not be a big deal... since the oil is always in circulation, there was no danger of it backing up and filling up the whole hose and drowning the turbo? i am not sure if that is the proper reasoning, but thinking of how the circuit works that is what i think of it.

i wasn't sure how to search for this...

the setup is a really fat log manifold, T3/T4 turbo (only oil cooled, no coolant hookups), straight dump towards the ground, internal wastegate, ghetto home depot charge pipe, cheapy air filter... i also have a BOV, TurboXS RFL, to put in, but the ghetto home depot charge pipe has nowhere to put it, so i am making the car driveable then taking it to get a mandrel bent charge pipe set up

summary
- turbo has more shaft play after 1.5 miles then it did before i moved it... it was hot when i checked it after driving, cold when i checked it before
- smoking from turbo, coolant, probably just spilled
- oil pan drain is by second bolt hole from left, 1.25-1.5" inch down, as opposed to 0.5" down by the 3rd bolt hole from left
- car has never seen boost yet, despite the turbo..

What exactly do you need help with? You say the turbo is smoking is all? You see smoke actually coming out of the turbo or is it coming out of the exhaust or somewhere else?

You say the turbo isn't coolant cooled but there is coolant smoking from it??

The placement of the return line should be fine. It's possible that oil is getting coked up in the sagging of the line, how far is it sagging below the bung?

the turbo smoking is no big deal, unless it doesn't go away and it has something to do with the shaft play.. i was more worried about a brand new t3/t4 having shaft play already... the turbo, according to the seller, only had about 1300 miles on it and was perfect when he got it, but now it has shaft play after only being powered on this car for 1.5 miles? that is what worried me more

as well the whole setup has only been driven for about 1.5 miles, this is the first time the car has moved under its own power since the owner took it apart to put the turbo in it, so i don't think oil coking would be an issue. it sags about 2" below though, it is completely underneath the bung... not cool, i'll move it later when i get a permanent dp made, but could this be causing my problems?

you know a picture is worth a......

Post some if you want us to better help you.

-K-

a hammer?

precision LOL

getty up

-kent-




'98 Talon...gone, but not forgotten

Originally posted by micyek
a hammer? precision LOL

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97 Talon-SOLD
95 GS-T-SOLD
08 F-150

You guys may think i'm a tard, but what the hell is clocking the turbo?

better than some... Greater than most

clocking:

A turbo needs oil just like a motor. The center section of a turbo has an oil feed and an oil drain.

Since turbo's are so universal when you take it from one vehicle to another you have the Turn the center section of the turbo so that the feed is pointing straight up and the drain is feeding downward(to the oil pan)

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97 Talon-SOLD
95 GS-T-SOLD
08 F-150

alrighty then, and knowing is half the battle.

better than some... Greater than most

getty up

-kent-




'98 Talon...gone, but not forgotten

okay this CAN'T be good... took the charge pipe apart today to replace it with a better one... and i find oil in the bottom of the charge pipe. "fuck" I think. then i think i will take apart the compressor just to make sure there is none in there either. but, i take it off, and there is oil pooled in the bottom. "fuck!!" i think again. then I look underneath the car and see the turbo is seeping oil out the bottom. "FUCK!!"
i didn't have time to check for a backed up oil drain line, but i don't think that is the case, the turbo looks like something has been sucked into the compressor blades and has developed some shaft play. what the fuck happened? can i drive it around and boost like this, or is this the kind of thing that needs a rebuild right away?

Hm I wonder what it was and where it went. It's hard to tell whether it's good enough to drive around with, without seeing it. I would definately be looking for a new turbo though, not just to get rid of the bad fins, oil leaking and play(if that's not enough reasons), but just to know what turbo I actually have.

no kidding... there doesn't look to be any fin damage, they just have marks on them, but no pieces are missing and they feel smooth to the touch... the play isn't serious, it is just a little back and forth, but the turbo smokes a lot of oil. it is coming mostly from the center section, it's probably just full of oil (I'm hoping its just full) so I'm going to let it drain today and cut down the drain line so it isn't all loopy like it is right now..

alright I just ran the car again, drove fine... except it bogs every time I go from part throttle to no throttle, kinda sputters and the rpms drop... that might be because of the huge fuel pump, i cannot say... doesn't die, it runs fine, it clears out right away
OH YEAH never mind it might be because i accidently disconnected that EGR thing and forgot to reconnect it, that probably caused it... didn't give me a CEL though?

i also cut the oil return hose down so it is just a straight drop into the pan instead of all the loopy shit it did before, i checked the size to make sure it was bigger then the feed and this hose is huge, like a garden hose almost except made by goodyear haha....

when i got to the car wash, the radiator was smoking the same smoke the turbo did... so i am really hoping it is just something spilled onto this stuff. when i got home, after a hard pull up a hill which involved the zero on my boost gauge taunting me as my car refused to go from vacuum to boost because of a stuck open wastegate, the turbo was smoking again. the smoke went away really fast this time, but i am going to take the filter off and see if there is oil pooled in the compressor again,.

never mind, forgot how to make sense

1995 Eagle Talon ESi

goto the Junkyard and get a turbo or upgrade it.

AFAIK if there was a backup it the return line there could have been too much pressure in the turbo and it caused the bearing to wear Some BB turbos run a restrictor in the feed line to limit the high pressure oil.

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle

good shit. Hopefully it runs good for you now

I eat emo kids for breakfast

1995 Eagle Talon (SOLD)
72' SuperBeetle
72' Standard Beetle
56' Deluxe Beetle