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97grnRSMar-13-05 12:05 PM
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#83675, "intercooling and filtering issues."


          

well heres the prob. one: i am running a small turbo setup. subaru turbo and all home made. . it boosts great. right now i have it set at 7.5 PSI on my rs. but.. i recently added a greddy side mount intercooler and it took away one PSI and also greatly reduced accelleration power. i can get the psi back with my boost control but the loss of accel. i cant deal with. so i took it off for now and im just runnin non intercooled and it still runs great but id rather have a i cooler. is this normal to loose some power due to longer pipes and all or no?
2nd: my turbo does not respond well with a filter on it. at the moment i have none since turbo is in ok spot where really no water can get to it and radiator and bumper mostly block anything from flying towards it . but i lose some power and def my BOV sounds weaker when i add the filter to it. just a basic cone type filter using 2" piping. any suggestions on this also ?
other than that car runs extremely fast for the kit i made.

91 civic hatch, homemade turbo+ LS motor = 12 sec street car.

  

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RE: intercooling and filtering issues., tim97rs, Mar-13-05 01:06 PM, #1
RE: intercooling and filtering issues., TeamXtremeRS, Mar-13-05 01:11 PM, #2
RE: intercooling and filtering issues., 97grnRS, Mar-13-05 02:40 PM, #3
      RE: intercooling and filtering issues., cyan, Mar-13-05 02:57 PM, #4
           RE: intercooling and filtering issues., TeamXtremeRS, Mar-13-05 03:35 PM, #5
                RE: intercooling and filtering issues., Ryan_Hes, Mar-14-05 03:48 PM, #6
                     RE: intercooling and filtering issues., Eclipse2NR, Mar-18-05 03:40 PM, #7

tim97rsMar-13-05 01:06 PM
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#83679, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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Originally posted by 97grnRS
is this normal to loose some power due to longer pipes and all or no?

yes, with an IC you will see usualy about a 1psi drop or so... but the acceleration issue is weird, you shouldn't loose any at all with an IC..something dosen't sound right.

Originally posted by 97grnRS
2nd: my turbo does not respond well with a filter on it. at the moment i have none since turbo is in ok spot where really no water can get to it and radiator and bumper mostly block anything from flying towards it . but i lose some power and def my BOV sounds weaker when i add the filter to it. just a basic cone type filter using 2" piping. any suggestions on this also ? other than that car runs extremely fast for the kit i made.

sounds like you have a crappy filter...
you really NEED to have a filter on it. there is still plenty of small debris flying around your engine bay when you drive that WILL chew the blades up over time.

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TeamXtremeRSMar-13-05 01:11 PM
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#83680, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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What size piping did you use for the IC?


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97grnRSMar-13-05 02:40 PM
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#83687, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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i used 2 " piping for the Ic. i put a filter back on . i dont like it too much but its as good as it gonna get i guess. i got a new filter. its better but still a tad diff.. i guess 7.5 psi non intercooled is ok. the car it came from runs 8 from factory and has no IC either. so i dunno. . for now ill leave it off. id rather a FMIC anyway.

91 civic hatch, homemade turbo+ LS motor = 12 sec street car.

  

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cyanMar-13-05 02:57 PM
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#83691, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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the car it came on had alot stronger bottom end too though.


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TeamXtremeRSMar-13-05 03:35 PM
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#83693, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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Just be sure you don't have any boost leaks in your piping or couplers, ect..2" is prob a bit small, but that turbo really doesnt flow much air, so it's prob ok..


13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
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-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

  

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Ryan_HesMar-14-05 03:48 PM
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#83722, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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Yea...like they've said...the accelleration problem is not right. Adding an intercooler will drop the boost a pound or so, but you can simply re-adjust with your boost controller. I would also strongly recommend running the intercooler with the setup and upgrading to larger piping - 2 and 1/4 with nice bends - then troubleshoot from there. NOT running an intercooler isn't the solution to your problem, your pistons like lower temps emoji

Also, defintely run a filter - I wouldn't even risk leaving it off...the turbo really sucks air..like...intensely - misc. debris over time will fuck it up....

You aren't running much boost and the turbo size most likely doesn't demand larger piping - but I would still upgrade if I were you.

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Eclipse2NRMar-18-05 03:40 PM
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#83899, "RE: intercooling and filtering issues."
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Intercooling usually adds power... hehe.


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