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Dan ZellerMar-07-05 01:28 PM
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#83450, "please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"


          

I bought this turbo to do a custom setup on a 420A. It is supposed to be a T-25 with 55trim and .89 a/r. I was told I could get the wastegate from a stock T-25 and put it on this one since this is just a bare turbo. Can someone please confirm that this is indeed a T-25 and tell me how I can get the internal wastegate from say a blown T-25 on here. Thanks

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RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, extreme97nt, Mar-07-05 01:34 PM, #1
RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Dan Zeller, Mar-07-05 03:13 PM, #2
      RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Mar-07-05 05:26 PM, #3
           RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, GSGoinFast, Mar-07-05 05:31 PM, #4
                RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Dan Zeller, Mar-07-05 11:36 PM, #5
                     RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Blizare, Mar-08-05 02:56 AM, #6
                          RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, 97whitESi, Mar-08-05 10:18 AM, #7
                               RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Dan Zeller, Mar-08-05 11:51 AM, #8
                                    RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Mar-09-05 03:31 AM, #9
                                         RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Dan Zeller, Mar-09-05 11:53 AM, #10
                                              RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Mar-09-05 02:36 PM, #11
                                                   RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Dan Zeller, Mar-09-05 04:17 PM, #12
                                                        RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, Blizare, Mar-09-05 04:45 PM, #13
                                                        RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, GSGoinFast, Mar-10-05 08:39 AM, #14
                                                        RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Mar-10-05 05:52 AM, #15

extreme97ntMar-07-05 01:34 PM
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#83451, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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From the pictures it looks like you will need an external WG. You will also need a vband or other type flange welded to the turbine outlet to hook up a down pipe. FYI I have a turbonetics delta gate forsale 85 shipped if you would like to go that rout

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Dan ZellerMar-07-05 03:13 PM
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#83452, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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Thats what I thought, I see no way of hooking up the internal w/g on this thing. Where could I get a turbine housing that will take an internal wastegate for this? And would that be cheaper and easier than going external?

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMar-07-05 05:26 PM
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#83457, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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That is not a t25......no way. Looks liek some other mitsu based turbo with a garrett turbine. Look for a 5/6 digit number on the turbine housing and post it. Hopefully there is one or it hasnt been ground off.

Do the same for the compressor housing.....there may still be a p/n on it.

Terry

  

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#83458, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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T-25 with a .89 a/r? never heard of it. but you cannot run an internal gate on that thing. you have to go external

-Chris
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Dan ZellerMar-07-05 11:36 PM
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#83465, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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This is a rebuilt Garrett.

It has Garrett on the turbine housing and a tag from the factory saying garrett. When it was factory rebuilt the guy had it opened to .89 a/r The .89 is even stamped in the turbine housing.

#s on the turbine housing:
3850 -5
H3 89 H2 74P
Compressor Housing:
M10 R A
6317-4

also Tag on turbo:
Garrett
AKM0129
291094020
FACTORY OVERHAULED

  

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#83466, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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my garrett t-25 says "garrett t-25" on it emoji

nice turby though


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#83484, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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m10?? thats a bad sign, low nickel content.
but uhhh, .89A/R t25? ok then, ive never heard of such a thing
and is it just me or is there no provision for a downpipe?

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Dan ZellerMar-08-05 11:51 AM
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#83490, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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the m10 is on the compressor side anyways

I am going with an external wastegate

Here is what I am thinking:

I am going to machine around the turbine housing to clean up the rough casting. I will mount a tubular o2 on there with a v band clamp or something like that.

What do you guys think of that?

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMar-09-05 03:31 AM
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#83506, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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I cant find any info on those numbers. I have searched the net and a few book but not a thing. The only other numbers will be on the back sides ofthe turbine and compressor wheel but i am not about to ask you to disassemble a rebuilt unit. Sorry wish i had more info.

FWIW....89 turbine is a little large poss v6 material. might be worth selling and buy another.

Terry

  

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Dan ZellerMar-09-05 11:53 AM
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#83530, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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what would be bad with the 89 turbine? I am new to this and just looking for answers?

  

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#83535, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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.89 a/r will have more turbo lag then say a .63 which is pretty average to most applications. the 89 you have will take longer to spool up. Now if you were planning on a 2.4 you would probably be better off in the long run to use this turbo. for reference the .63 turbine spools at 2600-2800rpm's on a factory compression 2.0 motor. the 89 would take longer to spool.

Terry

  

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Dan ZellerMar-09-05 04:17 PM
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#83543, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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when you say spools do you mean reaches full boost or begins to spool ar 2600 or 2800rpm?

would you think that this .89 a/r will hit full boost at about what rpm? I was hoping it'd begin to spool around 3200 or so and then be a max boost by 5000 rpm something like that?

  

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#83545, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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thats a BIG hot side. Arn't superduty diesels like a 1.0?


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#83576, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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Originally posted by Blizare
thats a BIG hot side. Arn't superduty diesels like a 1.0?


my class actually just went on a field trip to UTI, and when we were in the Diesel section, i was looking at the engines. god damn this one had TWIN turbos with 1.01 A/R cold side. i didnt get a number for the hot. but it had two of them!!! the thing was fucking massive. damn emoji

-Chris
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#83566, "RE: please help identufy this turbo and how to get a wastegate on it"
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it begins to spool at 2600rpm. full boost by 5000...i doubt it but give it a try if you want.

Blizare: yup they sure do!

Terry

  

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