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titogs95Dec-04-04 10:06 PM
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#80050, "Poll question: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"


          

Wich turbo should I get for my first time setup.
I will have stock bottom running 8-10 psi.
I am stock up! I will be having all the support mods needed.
All I want to know wich setup should I get.
I was thinking that GARRET T3 60trim is enough.(.48A/R turbine housing)

So what do you guys think?
I know that .63A/R turbine housing is bigger but should I take the risk?
Am i going to have a Turbo lag? A big one? Is it worth to the amount of psi used? (8-10psi)

Here is the info page:
http://www.turbocalculator.com/sale-turbokits.php
&
http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-product.php?product=002-002-001

Please serious Imput and people with experience.

TIA
Alejandro

Attachment #1, (turbocalculator file)

Poll result (7 votes)
Garret T3 .48A/R turbine 50 trim (0 votes)Vote
Garret T3 .48A/R turbine 60 trim (6 votes)Vote
Garret T3 .63A/R turbine 50 trim (0 votes)Vote
Garret T3 .63A/R turbine 60 trim (1 votes)Vote
(0 votes)Vote
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RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, DarKReaLity, Dec-05-04 05:02 AM, #1
RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, RxR_Eclipse, Dec-05-04 05:42 AM, #2
RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, titogs95, Dec-05-04 07:12 AM, #3
      RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, 97whitESi, Dec-06-04 08:45 AM, #4
RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, MrSlick, Dec-06-04 12:52 PM, #5
      RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?, DarKReaLity, Dec-06-04 04:51 PM, #6

DarKReaLityDec-05-04 05:02 AM
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#80054, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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well what are your goals, are you gonna stay at 8-10psi, or you're getting built internals and going 15+psi, if you just want faster spool and moderate 8-10psi, then you would want a smaller a/r. the bigger you go, the more lag you get, but it compensates for top end HP and less back pressure. that comes into play when you're going above 20+psi of boost. like for example i chose is a Precision SC34, it's a t3/t4e 57trim 2.230/2.950 wheel size, and Exh hsg is .63 A/R 76 trim wheel. this turbo is rated 545 flywheel hp which is more then enough. when i switched from the turbonetics one i had, talk about a broken neck at full boost. also choosing a turbo requires that you read what kind of turbo would be efficient at a certain psi depending on what type of engine we have. then there's mathematics involved and i really don't want to get into that. but if 8-10psi is your goal, then i would choose a garret turbo similar to a S16G, spools quick and efficient at that psi level. i think this would be just right:
http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17267&cat=508&page=1

  

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RxR_EclipseDec-05-04 05:42 AM
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#80056, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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Dec-05-04 05:50 AM by RxR_Eclipse

          

Im actually going with a .48 exhaust and a 60 compressor with turbonetics 'v' trim. It should be able to produce about 400 hp. Since I do autox not drag racing Im better off with a quick spooler that will make about 270hp to the wheels. Even that may be too much for autox. This last season I found myself turning the boost down due to wheelspin. And Im only runnig a 14B now.

Kevin
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titogs95Dec-05-04 07:12 AM
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#80059, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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Yes, My goals are built the turbo on it. And depending on the time and money! I might be able to rebuild the internal and by that time if I have to (I Bet I have to !) I will buy a big and better turbo.
But for now! I will put the turbo and later sell it to get an RWD or AWD car! no more FWD!! (But, the eclipse won't get out of my hand easily for a long time! I love it!)
Like, I was thinking T3 60 tirm .48A/R turbine housing.

Thanks a lot for your information guys!!! I apreciate it a LOT!

More imputs are Welcome!

Tito


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"I want a powerful 4 Cyl car!!!!"

  

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97whitESiDec-06-04 08:45 AM
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#80109, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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Dec-06-04 08:48 AM by 97whitESi

          

Originally posted by titogs95
Yes, My goals are built the turbo on it. And depending on the time and money! I might be able to rebuild the internal and by that time if I have to (I Bet I have to !) I will buy a big and better turbo. But for now! I will put the turbo and later sell it to get an RWD or AWD car! no more FWD!! (But, the eclipse won't get out of my hand easily for a long time! I love it!) Like, I was thinking T3 60 tirm .48A/R turbine housing. Thanks a lot for your information guys!!! I apreciate it a LOT! More imputs are Welcome! Tito http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/image.php?u=27413&dateline=1083041166 "Why can not be easy do the 2.4L swap????" "I want a powerful 4 Cyl car!!!!"


have you considered the .52 A/R turbine trim T3? i believe its a standard 50 trim compressor, it was used on the Turbo III turbododges
EDIT: i had my turbines mixed up, its a .52A/R compressor w/ a .48A/R turbine, i think that might just be a 50trim, but i dunno

2005 Legacy GT Ltd, Garnet Red Pearl
speak softly and spool a big turbo

  

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MrSlickDec-06-04 12:52 PM
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#80116, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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Originally posted by DarKReaLity
well what are your goals, are you gonna stay at 8-10psi, or you're getting built internals and going 15+psi, if you just want faster spool and moderate 8-10psi, then you would want a smaller a/r. the bigger you go, the more lag you get, but it compensates for top end HP and less back pressure. that comes into play when you're going above 20+psi of boost. like for example i chose is a Precision SC34, it's a t3/t4e 57trim 2.230/2.950 wheel size, and Exh hsg is .63 A/R 76 trim wheel. this turbo is rated 545 flywheel hp which is more then enough. when i switched from the turbonetics one i had, talk about a broken neck at full boost. also choosing a turbo requires that you read what kind of turbo would be efficient at a certain psi depending on what type of engine we have. then there's mathematics involved and i really don't want to get into that. but if 8-10psi is your goal, then i would choose a garret turbo similar to a S16G, spools quick and efficient at that psi level. i think this would be just right: http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17267&cat=508&page=1


Sounds like you've got thesame turbo as I do... emoji

Isn't it fun? Gotta love the whiplash you get over 15psi emoji
What ignition system you running? Add a standalone, and you get that turbo to go even crazier with some clever ignition timing emoji

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Custom turbo system

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DarKReaLityDec-06-04 04:51 PM
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#80128, "RE: Wich Garret T3 setup should I get?"
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Originally posted by MrSlick
Originally posted by DarKReaLity well what are your goals, are you gonna stay at 8-10psi, or you're getting built internals and going 15+psi, if you just want faster spool and moderate 8-10psi, then you would want a smaller a/r. the bigger you go, the more lag you get, but it compensates for top end HP and less back pressure. that comes into play when you're going above 20+psi of boost. like for example i chose is a Precision SC34, it's a t3/t4e 57trim 2.230/2.950 wheel size, and Exh hsg is .63 A/R 76 trim wheel. this turbo is rated 545 flywheel hp which is more then enough. when i switched from the turbonetics one i had, talk about a broken neck at full boost. also choosing a turbo requires that you read what kind of turbo would be efficient at a certain psi depending on what type of engine we have. then there's mathematics involved and i really don't want to get into that. but if 8-10psi is your goal, then i would choose a garret turbo similar to a S16G, spools quick and efficient at that psi level. i think this would be just right: http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17267&cat=508&page=1
Sounds like you've got thesame turbo as I do... emoji Isn't it fun? Gotta love the whiplash you get over 15psi emoji What ignition system you running? Add a standalone, and you get that turbo to go even crazier with some clever ignition timing emoji

dude awesome! we're SC34 brothers! emoji well right now i'm still sort of stock ignition but i have the scream'n demon coil, taylor spark plug wires, and NGK iridiums. i'm almost considering the megasquirt, but i want to see want the EIC-034 can do at 25psi before taking that step. if i can reach my goal at 25psi and no problems at the dyno i guess i'm fine with it.

  

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