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GSGoinFast	Nov-24-04 06:16 PM
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#79647, "Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"

Hey, i searched but didnt see anything like it, whats the fastest a 2gnt has run with only nitrous, no turbo? what about only nitrous on stock internals? i was just curious. if its been talked about please give me a link. thanks

-Chris
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RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, injendsm, Nov-25-04 04:09 AM, #1

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, nosdeclipse, Nov-25-04 06:01 AM, #2

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-25-04 09:19 AM, #3

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, injendsm, Nov-25-04 10:49 AM, #4

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, eclipse96rs_n, Nov-25-04 03:44 PM, #5

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-25-04 03:48 PM, #6

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, eclipse96rs_n, Nov-25-04 05:03 PM, #7

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, JWoodley, Nov-26-04 04:35 AM, #8

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-26-04 08:24 AM, #9

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-26-04 10:16 AM, #10

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-26-04 08:01 PM, #11

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-27-04 03:49 AM, #12

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-27-04 07:14 PM, #13

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-28-04 04:41 AM, #14

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-28-04 06:17 AM, #15

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, JWoodley, Nov-28-04 07:53 PM, #16

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Nov-29-04 02:09 AM, #17

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-29-04 08:41 AM, #18

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, JWoodley, Nov-30-04 06:30 AM, #19

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Nov-30-04 08:51 AM, #20

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, eclipse_99rs, Dec-01-04 12:40 AM, #21

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Dec-01-04 10:35 AM, #22

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, GSGoinFast, Dec-01-04 02:27 PM, #23

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, JWoodley, Dec-01-04 04:07 PM, #24

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Dec-02-04 09:27 AM, #25

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, babybeclipse, Dec-05-04 07:14 AM, #26

RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?, JWoodley, Dec-05-04 10:41 AM, #27

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injendsm	Nov-25-04 04:09 AM
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#79654, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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i saw some guy on tooners who supposedly had a built bottom end with 10:5 compression and a 100 shot that ran a high 13 but i cant recall seeing a timeslip. a friend of mine on this site tho, with a 50 shot on stock internals, managed to run a 14.5. not sure if those are the fastest times but they are the fastest i remember.

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nosdeclipse	Nov-25-04 06:01 AM
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#79659, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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i had a 14.5 with a 100 shot on stock internals. ^^^ 14.5 on only a 50 shot emoji

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GSGoinFast	Nov-25-04 09:19 AM
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#79663, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by nosdeclipse
i had a 14.5 with a 100 shot on stock internals. ^^^ 14.5 on only a 50 shot emoji

you ran a 100 shot on stock internals? any problems? and you only ran a 14.5 with a 100 shot? what other mods? damn i was hoping to break 14's with my 75 shot, it might be harder then i thought. anyone else with any faster times then whats posted? thanks

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injendsm	Nov-25-04 10:49 AM
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#79667, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by nosdeclipse
i had a 14.5 with a 100 shot on stock internals. ^^^ 14.5 on only a 50 shot emoji

i cant believe you were crazy enough to do a 100 shot on stock internals. he had minor supporting mods for the 50 shot and im guessin he was a pretty good driver but i saw the slip back in the day and thats what he managed to pull off.

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eclipse96rs_n	Nov-25-04 03:44 PM
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#79674, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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I ran a 13.7 with a 2.25 60 ft time and a trap speed of 106.02 with a 100 shot, nitto drag radials, afx udp, built bottom end with 10.5 pistons, crower stage 2 cams, stage 3 spec clutch, headers, 2.5" inch catback, 55mm bored throttle body, testpipe, and CAI.

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GSGoinFast	Nov-25-04 03:48 PM
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#79675, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by eclipse96rs_n
I ran a 13.7 with a 2.25 60 ft time and a trap speed of 106.02 with a 100 shot, nitto drag radials, afx udp, built bottom end with 10.5 pistons, crower stage 2 cams, stage 3 spec clutch, headers, 2.5" inch catback, 55mm bored throttle body, testpipe, and CAI.

damn thats quite a set up you have there. thats basically what i want my car to be when im done with her. how come you only ran a 100 shot? ever think of going higher or were you afraid of the consequenses? i basically want the same set up as you but i was looking at possibly running a 150 shot. you think that is too high for 10.5 compression or not? any other times? thanks

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eclipse96rs_n	Nov-25-04 05:03 PM
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#79676, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Yeah i wanna go higher but i need to get the stainless steel valves, and build a direct port system and maybe with some slicks and some 2.0 or 1.9 60ft times i can get to the very high 12s. Thats my goal get to the high 12s

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JWoodley	Nov-26-04 04:35 AM
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#79686, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Nov-26-04 04:37 AM by JWoodley

We only have an 1/8 mile track around here and I usually bump off a low 9.7 @75-77mph with a best 60ft of 2.3 on street tires.

I'm running a similar setup with the NA mods, n20, and the stock bottom end.

I'm going to be running the MS this spring with ignition control and possibly a set of cams. I'd really like to get the aggressiveness of the crower 3s, but they didnt fare too well in boosted aplications and n20 is still forced induction.

I just converted my best 1/8(9.68) to 1/4 and it came out to be a 15.192.

My only real setback, other than cash emoji , is that this is my daily driver and I'm not looking to blow her up. I'm going to need a clutch and LSD soon as it is. Feel free to IM me and we can share ideas and whatnot.

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babybeclipse	Nov-26-04 08:24 AM
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#79689, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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wow, those are some very nice n20 only times

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GSGoinFast	Nov-26-04 10:16 AM
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#79696, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by eclipse96rs_n
Yeah i wanna go higher but i need to get the stainless steel valves, and build a direct port system and maybe with some slicks and some 2.0 or 1.9 60ft times i can get to the very high 12s. Thats my goal get to the high 12s

that would be really nice. high 12's would be awesome to have without a turbo. i totally forgot about the valves. im still trying to decide if i want to go 10.5 comp all nitrous, or 8.8 comp turbo + nitrous... im not sure. i think it will all come down to money, and i wont be able to do any of this for about 4 years since i will be a poor college kid starting next year. gives me lots of time to think.

JWoodley:

what mods do you have? what shot are you running?

any more times? thanks

-Chris
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babybeclipse	Nov-26-04 08:01 PM
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#79705, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by eclipse96rs_n Yeah i wanna go higher but i need to get the stainless steel valves, and build a direct port system and maybe with some slicks and some 2.0 or 1.9 60ft times i can get to the very high 12s. Thats my goal get to the high 12s

that would be really nice. high 12's would be awesome to have without a turbo. i totally forgot about the valves. im still trying to decide if i want to go 10.5 comp all nitrous, or 8.8 comp turbo + nitrous... im not sure. i think it will all come down to money, and i wont be able to do any of this for about 4 years since i will be a poor college kid starting next year. gives me lots of time to think. JWoodley: what mods do you have? what shot are you running? any more times? thanks

why not make a compromise and stay stock comp?

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GSGoinFast	Nov-27-04 03:49 AM
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#79709, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by babybeclipse
why not make a compromise and stay stock comp?

because i havnt seen any after market pistons come in the stock comp, the only one i saw was some guy who had them custom made.

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babybeclipse	Nov-27-04 07:14 PM
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#79714, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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I'm running JE with 8.8:1 comp ratio and have had to run the car NA (when a boost tube let go). The car didn't seem to run much different than stock.

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GSGoinFast	Nov-28-04 04:41 AM
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#79715, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by babybeclipse
I'm running JE with 8.8:1 comp ratio and have had to run the car NA (when a boost tube let go). The car didn't seem to run much different than stock.

ya im gonna have to think about this one alot, but hey i got a lot of time emoji

anyone else with times that you ran or have seen people run? thanks

-Chris
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babybeclipse	Nov-28-04 06:17 AM
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#79716, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by babybeclipse I'm running JE with 8.8:1 comp ratio and have had to run the car NA (when a boost tube let go). The car didn't seem to run much different than stock.

ya im gonna have to think about this one alot, but hey i got a lot of time emoji

anyone else with times that you ran or have seen people run? thanks

If I had a direct port kit and a progressive controller... emoji

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JWoodley	Nov-28-04 07:53 PM
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#79737, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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GS, I'm in your same situation. I've got a few ideas I'm plotting. It sucks being a highschool kid with tons of ambition and no source of income. lol

baby, progressive would be cool IMO.

you guys outta feel free to converse with me on AIM anytime.

P.S.- i'm saving for MS!

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GSGoinFast	Nov-29-04 02:09 AM
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#79739, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by JWoodley
GS, I'm in your same situation. I've got a few ideas I'm plotting. It sucks being a highschool kid with tons of ambition and no source of income. lol baby, progressive would be cool IMO. you guys outta feel free to converse with me on AIM anytime.

P.S.- i'm saving for MS!

im sorry im having trouble understanding what your saying lol, specifically the last and third to last line. lol but tell me what your plans are.

oh yeah any other times anyone?

-Chris
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babybeclipse	Nov-29-04 08:41 AM
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#79751, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Nov-29-04 08:50 AM by babybeclipse

Originally posted by JWoodleybaby, progressive would be cool IMO.

100+ shot of nitrous REQUIRES a progressive nitrous controller emoji

Originally posted by JWoodley P.S.- i'm saving for MS!

huh? OVERKILL IMO

Just do a direct port wet shot

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JWoodley	Nov-30-04 06:30 AM
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#79821, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by babybeclipse

Originally posted by JWoodleybaby, progressive would be cool IMO.

100+ shot of nitrous REQUIRES a progressive nitrous controller emoji

Originally posted by JWoodley P.S.- i'm saving for MS!

huh? OVERKILL IMO Just do a direct port wet shot

Nah, I'll need to add more fuel and pull timing to run that safely.

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babybeclipse	Nov-30-04 08:51 AM
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#79827, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by JWoodley

Originally posted by babybeclipse

Originally posted by JWoodleybaby, progressive would be cool IMO.

100+ shot of nitrous REQUIRES a progressive nitrous controller emoji

Originally posted by JWoodley P.S.- i'm saving for MS!

huh? OVERKILL IMO Just do a direct port wet shot

Nah, I'll need to add more fuel and pull timing to run that safely.

A WET kit already gives you all the added fuel you will need with the nitrous.

Why complicate it?

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eclipse_99rs	Dec-01-04 12:40 AM
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#79871, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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When i move back to NH I'll let you know what i run with a 75 shot. All i can say is i left a 3.5L 04 altima in my rearview with a 75 shot.

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babybeclipse	Dec-01-04 10:35 AM
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#79906, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Man, I need a new job...All I need is a nitrous kit. The motors all ready

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GSGoinFast	Dec-01-04 02:27 PM
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#79920, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by eclipse_99rs
When i move back to NH I'll let you know what i run with a 75 shot. All i can say is i left a 3.5L 04 altima in my rearview with a 75 shot.

ya ive had some pretty good kills too... did try to race a new mustang cobra... didnt go so well...it wasnt too bad, but i didnt win, my only loss while spraying so far.

sorry i re read the post and realized im retarded... lol

any more times? possibly any with a 75 shot like im running?

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JWoodley	Dec-01-04 04:07 PM
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#79929, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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An altima is around 240hp or so i think, not too bad.

A 03 Cobra is 390bhp, that was a bad idea. lol

As far as GT's are concerned, you should rape them up to 65-70mph then it could get ugly. I bet lightly modded GT's at the track all the time. They cover alot of ground when they hit 3rd gear though.

The wet kit does add fuel, but I'm sure after a certain level I'd need a greater FP and I don't wanna starve the car. Plus the ZEX stops spraying when the FP or N20 pressure gets low. Which reminds me I need a bottle warmer, a 4an T an some more line.

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babybeclipse	Dec-02-04 09:27 AM
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#79974, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by JWoodley
The wet kit does add fuel, but I'm sure after a certain level I'd need a greater FP and I don't wanna starve the car. Plus the ZEX stops spraying when the FP or N20 pressure gets low. Which reminds me I need a bottle warmer, a 4an T an some more line.

Then get a larger fuel pump. No fuel starvation to the motor or the nitrous. I don't see the problem emoji

Originally posted by JWoodley
A 03 Cobra is 390bhp, that was a bad idea.

HAHA That's great. I was in a Chill Factory boosted neon when we blew the doors off one of those newer (03) Cobra's LMAO

Damn, I wish you guys could have seen the drivers face when he got beat by a lime grean Neon hahaha

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babybeclipse	Dec-05-04 07:14 AM
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#80060, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Alright bitches, My car is up and running again....now as for that Direct Port kit and progressive controller....Anyone want to make my Christmas very marry emoji

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JWoodley	Dec-05-04 10:41 AM
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#80071, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by babybeclipse

Originally posted by JWoodley The wet kit does add fuel, but I'm sure after a certain level I'd need a greater FP and I don't wanna starve the car. Plus the ZEX stops spraying when the FP or N20 pressure gets low. Which reminds me I need a bottle warmer, a 4an T an some more line.

Then get a larger fuel pump. No fuel starvation to the motor or the nitrous. I don't see the problem emoji

Originally posted by JWoodley A 03 Cobra is 390bhp, that was a bad idea.

HAHA That's great. I was in a Chill Factory boosted neon when we blew the doors off one of those newer (03) Cobra's LMAO Damn, I wish you guys could have seen the drivers face when he got beat by a lime grean Neon hahaha

A larger pump will cause shitty gas mileage while off the spray. It'd be better to regulate my fuel pressure methinks.

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Star Turbo Talon	Dec-05-04 08:21 PM
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#80088, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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anyone who thinks you are required to have a progressive controller with 100hp shot is full of shit to be honest. outside the fact the itrous is instantaneous there isnt a huge different concept from turbo boost other than nitrous is a much cooler charge and its mostly pure oxygen (with a few additives). you can run a 150shot if you have the fuel metering precise and learn to engage the nitrous at the right time.

Woodley if your worried about fuel do what most guys do with a high HP shot do. run a secondary fuel pump and regulator to the fuel solinoid only and do not tap off the stock fuel rail. You can even run a small fuel cell for the fuel required during spray. for 100hp i dont think you need to do anything but upgrade the fuel pump to lets say a 190 walbro....that pump should not over-run you factory reg and still flow enough to support your needs.

Getting a progressive controller to work with timing on our cars will be a real good feat if anyone find a controller that will do so. Jacobs controller that summit sells will not so look elsewhere.

Terry
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JWoodley	Dec-07-04 12:48 PM
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#80184, "RE: Whats the fastest Nitrous only time?"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
anyone who thinks you are required to have a progressive controller with 100hp shot is full of shit to be honest. outside the fact the itrous is instantaneous there isnt a huge different concept from turbo boost other than nitrous is a much cooler charge and its mostly pure oxygen (with a few additives). you can run a 150shot if you have the fuel metering precise and learn to engage the nitrous at the right time. Woodley if your worried about fuel do what most guys do with a high HP shot do. run a secondary fuel pump and regulator to the fuel solinoid only and do not tap off the stock fuel rail. You can even run a small fuel cell for the fuel required during spray. for 100hp i dont think you need to do anything but upgrade the fuel pump to lets say a 190 walbro....that pump should not over-run you factory reg and still flow enough to support your needs. Getting a progressive controller to work with timing on our cars will be a real good feat if anyone find a controller that will do so. Jacobs controller that summit sells will not so look elsewhere. Terry 96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver 97 Eclipse.........

As always, thanks Terry! Do you think the MS w/ spark control would be a good idea with all NA bolt ons and a 75shot? I've borrowed a friends logger and I'm getting hardly any knock even spraying with 87octane. It has been rather cold lately, however. I just know its running pig rich and limiting the effect of added O2 in the nitrous.

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