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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-25-04 07:28 AM
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#78588, "The New Manifold, Lol"
Oct-25-04 07:29 AM by xtrickedeclipsex

Well, we made another one. Looks so funny, but it flows even better then our other prototype.

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RE: The New Manifold, Lol, 96eclipse2nr, Oct-25-04 07:36 AM, #1

RE: The New Manifold, Lol, xtrickedeclipsex, Oct-25-04 07:37 AM, #2

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RE: The New Manifold, Lol, xtrickedeclipsex, Oct-25-04 08:19 AM, #4

RE: The New Manifold, Lol, DJ420a, Oct-25-04 11:53 AM, #5

RE: The New Manifold, Lol, siueclipse, Oct-25-04 11:54 AM, #6

RE: The New Manifold, Lol, xtrickedeclipsex, Oct-25-04 12:31 PM, #7

RE: The New Manifold, Lol, MrSlick, Oct-25-04 03:36 PM, #8

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RE: The New Manifold, Lol, Initial DSM, Nov-02-04 10:30 AM, #21

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96eclipse2nr	Oct-25-04 07:36 AM
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#78590, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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haha very interesting. althought a bit odd looking, i think if you did up nice with chrome or burned look and did away with the welds (being visible anyways) that would look pretty hot

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-25-04 07:37 AM
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#78591, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-25-04 07:38 AM by xtrickedeclipsex

Originally posted by 96eclipse2nr
haha very interesting. althought a bit odd looking, i think if you did up nice with chrome or burned look and did away with the welds (being visible anyways) that would look pretty hot

Yea, its another prototype. As you can see we didnt go for looks... emoji

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DarkOne	Oct-25-04 07:46 AM
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#78592, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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How tight is the 90* out of the head?

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-25-04 08:19 AM
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#78593, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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I couldent get a good pic...hope you can make it out

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DJ420a	Oct-25-04 11:53 AM
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#78603, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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It looks like a spider is crawling out from underneath your hood. Good Halloween prank,lol.

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siueclipse	Oct-25-04 11:54 AM
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#78604, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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im not sure about all that. too many bends.

how does it compare with an hrc manifold?

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-25-04 12:31 PM
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#78605, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-25-04 12:32 PM by xtrickedeclipsex

Originally posted by siueclipse
im not sure about all that. too many bends. how does it compare with an hrc manifold?

Well, it’s the Log VS Equal Length Tubular manifold argument. My manifold is obviously better, being equal length, and tubular. I had a manifold like this one for about 6 -7 months and only had one crack, and that was do to the bracket on the manifold breaking off, and a broken motor mount making the manifold move while still bolted to the down pipe. The bends/welds all held up under the heat. I love this manifold; it spools up the turbo even faster then the previous one. Full-Race did a Dyno between a equal length manifold, and a log style, and believe it or not gained 68 WHP “FR Equal Length vs. Log manifold chassis dynamometer testing. Equal length=68whp gain!”

http://wakesports.com/full-race/index.php?s=30105a334f0e3e8ed57644a3c06b8b65&showtopic=249

Seems hard to believe, but the manifold does make a difference in power. Now, im not saying my manifold vs. the Hahn would yield 68 WHP gain, or anything close to it, but it is definitely superior, and does yield more power.

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MrSlick	Oct-25-04 03:36 PM
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#78615, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by xtrickedeclipsex

Originally posted by siueclipse im not sure about all that. too many bends. how does it compare with an hrc manifold?

Well, it’s the Log VS Equal Length Tubular manifold argument. My manifold is obviously better, being equal length, and tubular. I had a manifold like this one for about 6 -7 months and only had one crack, and that was do to the bracket on the manifold breaking off, and a broken motor mount making the manifold move while still bolted to the down pipe. The bends/welds all held up under the heat. I love this manifold; it spools up the turbo even faster then the previous one. Full-Race did a Dyno between a equal length manifold, and a log style, and believe it or not gained 68 WHP “FR Equal Length vs. Log manifold chassis dynamometer testing. Equal length=68whp gain!” http://wakesports.com/full-race/index.php?s=30105a334f0e3e8ed57644a3c06b8b65&showtopic=249 Seems hard to believe, but the manifold does make a difference in power. Now, im not saying my manifold vs. the Hahn would yield 68 WHP gain, or anything close to it, but it is definitely superior, and does yield more power. ---------------------------------------

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I looked at the link you provided, something doesn't seem right.
For starters they say the log style manifold would spool the turbo quicker than the equal length manifold... that seems to go against common belief on egaul length designs.

Also, without seeing any dyno evidence, I don't see how you can claim the new design is better than the old design...
Also, I don't believe you compared your old manifold to a hrc manifold did you?

I've said it before and I'll say it again... you need to do a direct comparison between your manifold and a standard log manifold.

Send me your old prototype manifold and I'l dyno it against my log style manifold.

Hows that sounds?

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MrSlick	Oct-25-04 03:33 PM
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#78614, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by siueclipse
im not sure about all that. too many bends. how does it compare with an hrc manifold?

Too many bends? emoji

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turbo8u	Oct-26-04 12:00 PM
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#78651, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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those were definately mig welded

i would have just tacked the manifold together and had my tig welder heat treat and finalize it

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grain	Oct-27-04 01:22 AM
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#78667, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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dont like it.

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-25-04 12:36 PM
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#78606, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by DJ420a
It looks like a spider is crawling out from underneath your hood. Good Halloween prank,lol.

Yea, it scares the v8 guys to shit... they think it bites .. lol

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DJ420a	Oct-25-04 03:14 PM
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#78613, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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NNNNIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEE

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dougie2	Oct-25-04 04:33 PM
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#78617, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-25-04 04:34 PM by dougie2

That's going to be pretty hard to replicate. I think, with this design, you're customers are going to have fitment issues. I notice you're also having problems with heat, as your starter's wireloom is toast.

Looks like it would work great for a custom setup, but not for mass-production, or any form or replication for that matter.

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Dirty	Oct-25-04 05:30 PM
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#78620, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-25-04 05:31 PM by Dirty

Who did the welding on that thing? I didn't get to see much, but it looks like there might be some penetration issues. Grind that shit off the surface and see if those welds are good. I just don't think there's much you can do with that design. Hope you can prove me wrong. Good luck with that thing.

Edit: What kind of welder are you using to make these manifolds?

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turbo8u	Oct-26-04 06:53 AM
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#78638, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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lol thats cute man

its still not gunna save you though emoji

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Blizare	Oct-26-04 07:56 AM
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#78639, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Fuck. thats fugley. I LOKE your other mani. What are they worth BTW?

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Blizare	Oct-27-04 04:05 AM
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#78668, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by Blizare
I LOVE your other mani. What are they worth BTW?

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Initial DSM	Oct-27-04 05:27 AM
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#78669, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by Blizare I LOVE your other mani. What are they worth BTW?

you could find out if you visit the site its sold on.

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BumpinTalon	Nov-02-04 06:06 AM
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#78878, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by Initial DSM

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by Blizare I LOVE your other mani. What are they worth BTW?

you could find out if you visit the site its sold on.

$500usd!1 about $100 too much imo.

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Initial DSM	Nov-02-04 10:30 AM
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#78887, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by BumpinTalon

Originally posted by Initial DSM

Originally posted by Blizare

Originally posted by Blizare I LOVE your other mani. What are they worth BTW?

you could find out if you visit the site its sold on.

$500usd!1 about $100 too much imo.

The 4G63 equivalent (forget the companys name) is $1000.

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-26-04 11:41 AM
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#78647, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by dougie2
That's going to be pretty hard to replicate. I think, with this design, you're customers are going to have fitment issues. I notice you're also having problems with heat, as your starter's wireloom is toast. Looks like it would work great for a custom setup, but not for mass-production, or any form or replication for that matter.

The dude at my shop made this for me, just to try somthing new. Ill get a new one in a another couple months. We ship the other style mani with our kits, this one was just for me to dick around with..

Oh the welds are great...
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97whitESi	Oct-26-04 09:22 AM
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#78642, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by xtrickedeclipsex
Well, we made another one. Looks so funny, but it flows even better then our other prototype.

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may i ask WHY THE FUCK theres a (what appears to be an) ECT sensor on your raddy line?

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turbo8u	Oct-26-04 09:33 AM
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#78643, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by 97whitESi
may i ask WHY THE FUCK theres a (what appears to be an) ECT sensor on your raddy line?

if you're talking about the gm coolant temp sensor on the thermostat housing....thats for the megasquirt

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97whitESi	Oct-26-04 10:26 AM
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#78644, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by 97whitESi may i ask WHY THE FUCK theres a (what appears to be an) ECT sensor on your raddy line?

if you're talking about the gm coolant temp sensor on the thermostat housing....thats for the megasquirt

ahh thx

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-26-04 11:47 AM
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#78649, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-26-04 11:47 AM by xtrickedeclipsex

Originally posted by 97whitESi

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by 97whitESi may i ask WHY THE FUCK theres a (what appears to be an) ECT sensor on your raddy line?

if you're talking about the gm coolant temp sensor on the thermostat housing....thats for the megasquirt

ahh thx

Such harsh language…

ECT…

lolol

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etx	Oct-27-04 05:36 AM
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#78671, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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So how's no PCV vacume workin out for ya? heh

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-27-04 01:38 PM
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#78686, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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oh its great ..total seals..... emoji
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MrSlick	Oct-27-04 04:00 PM
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#78696, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by xtrickedeclipsex
oh its great ..total seals..... emoji

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Total seals suck... haven't we had this discussion before? emoji

Oh, and I did see some oil vapor out of where your valve cover breather used to be... emoji

Better keep an eye on that. emoji

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xtrickedeclipsex	Oct-27-04 06:55 PM
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#78704, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Oct-27-04 06:57 PM by xtrickedeclipsex

HEY HEY emoji my total seals kick ass.. lol

Eh, there is no breather now, IMO its kinda expected...dont you think?

Eh, come on. You loved my car....ha-ha me with my awesome imaginary return line
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turbo8u	Oct-28-04 07:16 AM
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#78727, "RE: The New Manifold, Lol"
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Originally posted by xtrickedeclipsex
....ha-ha me with my awesome imaginary return line

LOL

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