RANT ON...
Well, first run was good: 289whp/280tq... After 10 or so runs to dial in my 034EFI better, i managed to get rid of that lean spot as i went into boost and pull some fuel at the top end but i have a new lean spot between 3-4k rpms that i just could not get rid of (lean only in to the 12's). so now overall im in the 11's range.

After the fuel runs, i went to the cam gears..then it went down hill from there...
this goddamned dyno shop didn't even have a blower for the IC, just a big floor fan and a spray bottle for between the runs, and I was pressed for time buy the end.
i tried +2, +4, -4 and them back to 0, intake only settings with no real impressive results for any of them. this is wher the heat soak came in, i beleive. what ever gains i may have had with the gears were negated by the heatsoak.
run 1 was 14 degrees cooler in the shop than run 16!
with each cam adjustment, my fucking boost controller, for whatever reason, would cause major "boost bounce" and would take 4-5 runs to "settle back down" and give me a good smooth boost run. so after 3 adjustments (read 15 or so more runs) my best HP was at 0!!!!!

1 1/2 hours, $165.00, 2 burns, 1 scraped knuckle and an almost broken nose (hit myself while trying to loosen cam gear bolts) all for only 4 more hp.... WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway, here is the print out...



oh yea, and my freakin wideband program fucked up and closed at the end of it all and didn't save ANY of my graphs form this day...

AND....im am loosing my positive outlook for the 034EFI. without anyway to account for intake temp change, for me anyway is a big PITA. im not sure what its doing exactly, but only in colder temps and only in boost i get this bad ticking that sounds like lifter tick, but it aint!!! FULL oil change with 5 gts 1 week ago, no ticking in boost in lower elevation and higher temps, but in small mountain pass with cooler temps, TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK!!!!!!!!!!!

RANT OFF

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TICK TICK TICK is KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK. Maybe not serious enough to do any damage, but likely knock nonetheless.

Want more air temp control? Run larger primaries

Don't be too upset, Tim.. ya done good. 289/280 is nothing to laugh at.

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good numbers. keep going and youll get more. just takes time.

how much boost and what turbo?

Thanx Dino... i appreciate it.
Explain more about larger primaries helping temp control issues?
Siu,
i was hopin to break 300whp...oh well, next time
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goooooooooood numbers for that turbo and boost

Those numbers are pretty good for that boost level.

You said that you were playing with the cam gears... What kind of cams do you have?

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Don't be disappointed man. Those are some good numbers. WE ALL like to think that we are making higher numbers than we really are. Look at the positive...you know what could, and what CAN be improved for your next dyno session. From there, you should be able to make even more hp.

Good luck!

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You could use the Cam gears to degree the cams with a degree wheel (if you plan to pull the engine out this winter).....take some of the guessing and playing around out of them. Unfortunatly that has to be done with the engine out of the car due to our crappy clearance and you need a degree wheel.

Have you tried throwing ice on your intake to keep the Alum from heating up? Kind of an old trick, might be worth a try.

That really sucks the shop didnt have a proper blower for the IC.

Good numbers though, def respectable. What wideband are you using and did you find out why the Log program took a puke on you?


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Great numbers for the S16G!! Look forward to see what all of your mods are...

Yeah that's good stuff. I made 265 fwhp w/ the s16g @ 15 psi last winter.

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tim are you sick or somehting?

you just made 290 whp on 16 psi's with a measly 16g. which would equate to well over 310 crank hp.

cheer the fuck up dood, imaginied if you wouldve cranked it to 20-22.


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wow! thanx for all the moral support guys! i appreciate it. i think im gonna lay off the HP attainment goal till next summer...gimme some time to rethink my fuel options.

BTW, anyone know why adjusting the intake cam gear would cause the profec b spec 2 to be outa whack for a few runs like i described above? im thinkin of dumpin it and goin for some other kind, it works great, when it works great, other wise its a PITA to get it set correct in order for it to work great.

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Good job man... don't be disapointed.

And yes like Dino says, thats tick in cold weather is due to you leaning out I bet.
Remember, a 20f drop in intake temps is a 4% air density increase... that means you need 4% more fuel!

You know what could be done...
A circuit that uses an air temp sensor to raise the voltage going to the fuel pump as temp drops... That might just work

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I know... after I wrote it I realised I forgot about the FPR
<- Stupid head

Or you could just run a system that could compensate for such things..

Or, what about using an SAFC to alter the MAP vooltage ging to the EIC? That would work... Using a thermister to give it data of course. A GM intake temp sensor wuld be perfect.

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tim you have your lm-1 setup in-car 24/7? or just when you need to tune?

the temps around here change all the time, so it throws off my AFR after i tune it a little so im constantly tuning on the fly to my afr on the lm-1

290whp is not bad bro you have the long rod though right?

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Originally posted by turbo8u
tim you have your lm-1 setup in-car 24/7? or just when you need to tune? the temps around here change all the time, so it throws off my AFR after i tune it a little so im constantly tuning on the fly to my afr on the lm-1 290whp is not bad bro you have the long rod though right?

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Originally posted by tim97rs

Originally posted by turbo8u tim you have your lm-1 setup in-car 24/7? or just when you need to tune? the temps around here change all the time, so it throws off my AFR after i tune it a little so im constantly tuning on the fly to my afr on the lm-1 290whp is not bad bro you have the long rod though right?

no, its only installed when i need it. my biggest problem is i have no co-pilot (or driver) to use for tuning purposes.

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im really at least looking at the aux box for sure and loosely looking at he MS, but im really not keen on the whole programming issue. ive had a hard enough time understanding and using the 034 and its a lot simpler. i just dont have any really good resources to use if i f-up with a MS...
does the MS use intake temps to calculate fuel delivery? all i really need in a fuel unit is that feature on top of what the 034 does. i dont need anything else. im happy with letting the stock ECU handle everything up to the boost point.

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the MS uses a intake air temp sensor yes. with the new thang lee is working on, its a 12x12 fuel table with a target afr, the MS adjusts fuel to your set afr.

think about that....

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OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! schwing!!!!!!!!!!

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Scwhing!!!

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Hey Tim, about your boost control issue.. What do you have your Spec II set at for the wastegate opening pressure? When I've adjusted mine, I would notice that the boost gauge needle would bounce in boost if the opening pressure was set too far away from your desired boost. I try to keep it around 2-3 psi before your set boost level. This setting is also called the "set gain" perameter. If that doesn't work, try lowering or raising the "gain" percentage. My high boost is set for 15 psi(around 47 percent on the set knob), my gain is around 10%, and "set gain" (or "start boost") is set to around 125(12.5 psi). Try it out and see what happens. The spec II is a little bitchy to get set right..oh, and good dyno numbers too

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