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nosdeclipseSep-27-04 11:32 AM
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#77043, "How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"




          

I know there are many variable for this like intercooler efficiency, turbo efficiency, intake air charge etc. but, on the average what would be a safe number? i'm trying to figure out what size secondaries to go with on the 8 injector setup. a friend had a set of injectors he said i could have. they ended up being the orange top 19# ford injectors. i really don't think these are going to be capable of 18-20 psi. also, when i'm finished my rebuild what is the best way to run it normally aspirated for the break in? i was thinking of just taking the wastegate spring out but i don't know what the correct way would be.


98 eclipse gs
star stage 2 w/ bb, 8.6:1 je pistons, eagle rods, web turbo grind cams, udp, clutchmasters aluminum flywheel, clutchmasters stage 3 clutch, hks aic 3, 8 injector setup, phantom grip lsd, datalogger

  

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RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-27-04 11:42 AM, #1
RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, nosdeclipse, Sep-27-04 03:28 PM, #2
      RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, PiKapp504, Sep-28-04 04:39 AM, #3
           RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-28-04 06:17 AM, #4
                RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, PiKapp504, Sep-29-04 03:00 AM, #5
RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, ModeratorCorbin, Sep-28-04 06:55 AM, #6
RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, nosdeclipse, Sep-28-04 05:52 PM, #7
      RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, TeamMetalJim, Sep-28-04 07:42 PM, #8
           RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, nosdeclipse, Sep-29-04 03:24 AM, #9
                RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?, import1996rs, Sep-29-04 08:56 AM, #10

Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneSep-27-04 11:42 AM
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#77044, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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Depends on the size of the turbo. 1lb of boost is not always the same amount of air. More air requires more fuel.

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nosdeclipseSep-27-04 03:28 PM
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#77059, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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Sep-27-04 03:29 PM by nosdeclipse



          

it's on a t3/t4 50 trim if that helps, i'm just looking for a size injector that's not overkill but will do the job.


98 eclipse gs
star stage 2 w/ bb, 8.6:1 je pistons, eagle rods, web turbo grind cams, udp, clutchmasters aluminum flywheel, clutchmasters stage 3 clutch, hks aic 3, 8 injector setup, phantom grip lsd, datalogger

  

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PiKapp504Sep-28-04 04:39 AM
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#77088, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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Get a set of 30lb injectors and you'll be good. Stock primaries and 30lb secondaries. That's enough for 545cc/fuel at peak capacity, I think.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneSep-28-04 06:17 AM
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#77090, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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Originally posted by PiKapp504
Get a set of 30lb injectors and you'll be good. Stock primaries and 30lb secondaries. That's enough for 545cc/fuel at peak capacity, I think.


I disagree. What information do you base this suggestion on?

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'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

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PiKapp504Sep-29-04 03:00 AM
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#77159, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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Originally posted by DarkOne
Originally posted by PiKapp504 Get a set of 30lb injectors and you'll be good. Stock primaries and 30lb secondaries. That's enough for 545cc/fuel at peak capacity, I think.
I disagree. What information do you base this suggestion on?



Stock injectors are 235cc, 30lb injectors are 310cc. 235 + 310 = 545cc of fuel per cylinder.

96 Indy Red Dodge Avenger I4 5spd
225.7whp/227.2wtq @ 10psi, currently running 12-14psi.
HRC Stage III turbo setup
JE 8.8:1 pistons
Eagle rods
block bored .020" over
GReddy FMIC w/ custom piping
1G crushed BOV
SPEC Stage 3 clutch
2.5" DP, 2.5" high flow cat, 3" ERT catback w/ Magnaflow muffler and 3" tip.
much much more...

  

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ModeratorCorbinSep-28-04 06:55 AM
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#77093, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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If you had an estimate of your power goals, you could back your way into injector sizes. You would have to account for your chosen fuel pressure and primary injector size. That would let you calculate a secondary injector size. Of course, it wouldn't be 100% accurate...but its a start:

http://www.geocities.com/vttalon/tech.html

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nosdeclipseSep-28-04 05:52 PM
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#77152, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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looking for 370-400hp, shooting for around 18-20 psi, stock size primaries.


98 eclipse gs
star stage 2 w/ bb, 8.6:1 je pistons, eagle rods, web turbo grind cams, udp, clutchmasters aluminum flywheel, clutchmasters stage 3 clutch, hks aic 3, 8 injector setup, phantom grip lsd, datalogger

  

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TeamMetalJimSep-28-04 07:42 PM
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#77155, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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42 pounders should be plenty.


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nosdeclipseSep-29-04 03:24 AM
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#77161, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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ok, i guess i will have to go with them. quick question though. will the 19#s be ok for running 7lbs during breakin until i get a chance to get bigger ones?


98 eclipse gs
star stage 2 w/ bb, 8.6:1 je pistons, eagle rods, web turbo grind cams, udp, clutchmasters aluminum flywheel, clutchmasters stage 3 clutch, hks aic 3, 8 injector setup, phantom grip lsd, datalogger

  

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import1996rsSep-29-04 08:56 AM
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#77178, "RE: How many cc's of fuel per pound of boost?"
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sorry to highjack ur post, but could you let me know whats going on with the sfmu, like when you are planning on shipping it. i sent you a couple of pms, not sure if u got them or not.

  

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