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ahasan	Jul-27-04 04:49 AM
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#74428, "Turbo Or engine Swap"

I was wondering which would be cheaper to turbo my 95 eagle talon ESI or to do an Engine swap.

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RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, siueclipse, Jul-27-04 05:40 AM, #1

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, eclipse_99rs, Jul-27-04 06:03 AM, #2

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Global Ruler Of All Things

DarkOne, Jul-27-04 06:37 AM, #3

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, injendsm, Jul-27-04 07:33 AM, #4

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Steve, Jul-27-04 08:33 AM, #5

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, WIDECLIPSE, Jul-27-04 11:20 AM, #6

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, siueclipse, Jul-27-04 11:40 AM, #7

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-27-04 12:05 PM, #8

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, thedawg, Jul-27-04 12:31 PM, #9

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, soulcontroller, Jul-27-04 12:54 PM, #10

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, DSMRoadster, Jul-27-04 05:13 PM, #11

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-27-04 05:20 PM, #12

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, injendsm, Jul-27-04 05:32 PM, #13

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, DSMRoadster, Jul-28-04 09:56 AM, #14

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-28-04 12:03 PM, #15

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, DSMRoadster, Jul-28-04 03:58 PM, #16

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-28-04 04:01 PM, #17

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, DSMRoadster, Jul-28-04 04:40 PM, #18

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-29-04 10:49 AM, #19

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, ahasan, Jul-28-04 05:23 AM, #20

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, SILVERNT, Jul-28-04 06:14 AM, #21

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Team

DR1665, Jul-28-04 06:23 AM, #22

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, DSMeclipseGS, Jul-28-04 08:27 AM, #23

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, mintsbro, Jul-28-04 03:15 AM, #24

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, eclipse_99rs, Jul-28-04 11:06 AM, #25

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Kaoz78, Jul-28-04 03:52 PM, #26

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, Uberingram, Jul-28-04 04:02 PM, #27

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RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, thedawg, Jul-29-04 09:46 AM, #29

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, BumpinTalon, Aug-01-04 03:29 PM, #30

RE: Turbo Or engine Swap, customrsturbo, Aug-03-04 08:07 AM, #31

siueclipse	Jul-27-04 05:40 AM
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#74432, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Originally posted by ahasan
I was wondering which would be cheaper to turbo my 95 eagle talon ESI or to do an Engine swap.

swap with what?

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eclipse_99rs	Jul-27-04 06:03 AM
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#74433, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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OH god! here we go again. Just get a turbo kit.

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DarkOne	Jul-27-04 06:37 AM
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#74435, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Didn't i mention over at 'Talk that you did NOT want to start talking about a 4g63 swap here?

*sigh*

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injendsm	Jul-27-04 07:33 AM
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#74438, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Originally posted by DarkOne
Didn't i mention over at 'Talk that you did NOT want to start talking about a 4g63 swap here? *sigh*

some people never learn imo.

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Steve	Jul-27-04 08:33 AM
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#74444, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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I think everyone who register's should read the link in my pro.. before being allowed to post..

Steve-o
Top secret.

Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I guess I'll just have to live with a 500+ hp AWD 4-banger. emoji

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WIDECLIPSE	Jul-27-04 11:20 AM
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#74452, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Engine swap all the way!!!
You could put a B18 in there just do a little searching, it bolts right up!

-Roman

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siueclipse	Jul-27-04 11:40 AM
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#74453, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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i just put a chevy 454 in my eclipse

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Uberingram	Jul-27-04 12:05 PM
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#74454, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Jul-27-04 12:05 PM by Uberingram

Originally posted by siueclipse
i just put a chevy 454 in my eclipse

Really? I was just thinking of putting a Neon motor in mine. emoji

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thedawg	Jul-27-04 12:31 PM
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#74456, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Engine swap all the way.

Why in the hell would you want a turbo setup that was designed for our cars when you could put in an entire engine that wasn't!?

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soulcontroller	Jul-27-04 12:54 PM
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#74457, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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i just cut holes in my driver side and passenger side floorboards and use my feet.

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DSMRoadster	Jul-27-04 05:13 PM
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#74467, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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i agree with the engine swap. My car runs great ever since.

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Uberingram	Jul-27-04 05:20 PM
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#74469, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Ran really great with that park bench.

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injendsm	Jul-27-04 05:32 PM
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#74470, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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dont forget the fartcannon sticker.........it adds eleventybillion horsepower at the wheels.

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DSMRoadster	Jul-28-04 09:56 AM
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#74489, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Too bad it doesn't run as long as the line to Sarah sloppy second boy.

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Uberingram	Jul-28-04 12:03 PM
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#74491, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Originally posted by DSMRoadster
Too bad it doesn't run as long as the line to Sarah sloppy second boy.

I was wondering when you'd bite back. All mighty V. emoji

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DSMRoadster	Jul-28-04 03:58 PM
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#74496, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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sure. Go see Sally Struthers, you need some of what she has to offer.

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Uberingram	Jul-28-04 04:01 PM
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#74497, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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I almost slapped my knee in forced laughter but it just wasn't there. Sorry bud. emoji

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DSMRoadster	Jul-28-04 04:40 PM
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#74503, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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was that because your girl is almost as big as Sally Struthers? Here's what you need to do "bud", go to the fridge and get something to eat before we mistake you for an albino Ethiopian. But I'm done. I'll wait until you take a bite out of a random post of mine. Other than that keep your lips off my dick and hands off my balls.

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Uberingram	Jul-29-04 10:49 AM
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#74538, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Charlie in the bush, Charlie in the bush! Oh wait, that's just V.

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ahasan	Jul-28-04 05:23 AM
Member since Jul 26th 2004 4 posts,

#74478, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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I'm not doing a 4g63 swap cause I dunno what that is. I was thinking TSI engine from the same year. (hoping thats not the same thing)If u have any suggestion on engine or turbos let me know. But if anyone has done either perhaps they can let me know how long it took to install and where they got the parts. emoji

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SILVERNT	Jul-28-04 06:14 AM
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#74479, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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same thing, you lose

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DR1665	Jul-28-04 06:23 AM
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#74481, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Originally posted by ahasan
I'm not doing a 4g63 swap cause I dunno what that is. I was thinking TSI engine from the same year.

If that's not quotable, I don't know what is! emoji

In all seriousness, do0d, throw swap in the search engine and take a look at what happens when no0bs decide to walk down this path. Not very pretty. We are not your typical Honda (any engine will do) tuners. You have the luck of buying a car with a really good engine from the factory. You can throw a turbo on and drive it for years without any trouble. Only problem is you always want more, so you end up turning up the boost and breaking shit. If you want to do a swap, I'd suggest you find another 420a (your NT DSM engine) and build it to the hilt. Pistons, rods, cams, etc.. Then it's not a question of can you boost it, but of just how much boost do you want to throw at it.

You've found the right site to learn all you'll ever need to know about your car. You just need to maybe put your plans on the back burner and spend a month (at least a couple weeks) reading up here about what sort of different options you have now. Show us you can use the search once in a while and that you want to do it right, and you'll get all the help youu need. This place is like one big family and we take care of our own. You just have to pay your dues for a little while imo.

Welcome and stick around a bit.

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DSMeclipseGS	Jul-28-04 08:27 AM
Member since Jan 21st 2002 932 posts,

#74482, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Jul-28-04 08:30 AM by DSMeclipseGS

Originally posted by ahasan
I'm not doing a 4g63 swap cause I dunno what that is. I was thinking TSI engine from the same year. (hoping thats not the same thing)If u have any suggestion on engine or turbos let me know. But if anyone has done either perhaps they can let me know how long it took to install and where they got the parts. emoji

You really need to know what you're talking about. If you didn't know the TSI and GST/GSX have the same engine then you are not ready in any way to go turbo with a kit. Spend a year learning and reading this entire site (When I say 1 year I am serious... I read up for like a year and I still dont know half the stuff some guys here do).

Either that or just go and sell your car and buy a stock GST.

EDIT: WTF I HATE the fukin Honda guys. Those fags are the ones who started this stupid swapping engines Bullshit in imports and made it "cool". What ever happened to buying a damn car with what you want? If you want a prelude engine buy a prelude.... if u want a GST engine buy a damn GST... God damn....

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mintsbro	Jul-28-04 03:15 AM
Member since Jul 23rd 2004 54 posts,

#74476, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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ok you guys are being a little imature about this,even though
AHASAN____needs to learn how to use the search!!!!this has been covered many times before it's realy not a matter of cost either
install 4g63 cranckwalker,, or turbo your 420a it's all what you want. i personaly like to say "yeah, i turbocharged it myself" so whatever you want it cost lots both ways
4g63 swap
-donor car-
-mechanics fees-
-any upgrades to make 250hp-

420a turbo kit

-star kit stage 2-
-250hp all stock-

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eclipse_99rs	Jul-28-04 11:06 AM
Member since Apr 11th 2002 2659 posts,

#74490, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
In response to Reply # 24

ASHAN go here and you will find everything you ever needed to know about an eclipse http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=search&select_forum=8

myspace.com/coastiecobb

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Kaoz78	Jul-28-04 03:52 PM
Member since Dec 21st 2003 407 posts,

#74495, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Originally posted by mintsbro
ok you guys are being a little imature about this,even though AHASAN____needs to learn how to use the search!!!!this has been covered many times before it's realy not a matter of cost either install 4g63 cranckwalker,, or turbo your 420a it's all what you want. i personaly like to say "yeah, i turbocharged it myself" so whatever you want it cost lots both ways 4g63 swap -donor car- -mechanics fees- -any upgrades to make 250hp- 420a turbo kit -star kit stage 2- -250hp all stock-

Dude you are killing me. How are you gonna tell the people that have replied to this thread that they need to chill? I mean hell 99% of what you listed as swap info isn't true. First off when will dummies quit assuming 4g's are all prone to walk? You do realize only a small portion have done this, right?
Second, You do know a normal mechanic couldn't put a 4G into a 2GNT right? He would have to be more than merely a mechanic. A great deal of even making that swap happen would be FABRICATION. I know it's a long word but sound it out man. That's right the motor was never meant to mount into a 2GNT at all. The damn thing is turned the opposite way.
Well I'm done listing my limited knowledge on this subject. And Geez let's hope noone asks for more info about this pipedream.

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Uberingram	Jul-28-04 04:02 PM
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#74498, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Well, have him prove us all wrong then. If it's that easy and cheap then lets all go for it.

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Star Turbo Talon	Jul-28-04 05:30 PM
Member since Oct 21st 2003 8331 posts,

#74508, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
In response to Reply # 27

hell i was thinking forget the welding of mounts....mounts are madeof rubber.....bungee cords are rubber....oh here we go easy swap...lol.

This topic will always pope up guys...time to think of different responses to each one...lol just plain yelling at peoples isnt working, neither is dino locking threads working.

Terry

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thedawg	Jul-29-04 09:46 AM
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#74534, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Just try welding your hand to your face for about 5 minutes as a dry run to get an idea of how fun installing a 4g63 into ANY car is.

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BumpinTalon	Aug-01-04 03:29 PM
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#74671, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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Also cool: pouring concentrated shop degreaser onto any part of your body in a constant stream. You go numb! and then your skin turns white! and you lose your tan! and like five layers of skin! and it hurts for a month!

1995 Eagle Talon ESi

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customrsturbo	Aug-03-04 08:07 AM
Member since Oct 06th 2003 249 posts,

#74735, "RE: Turbo Or engine Swap"
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I swap my engine with a Mercedez turbo diesel engine. The only modification was the ecu harness. It saves gas as hell!

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