#69484, "Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)"
Ok, Ive heard arguments that theyre junk and dont flow, but Ive also heard that theyre pretty good. Ive got a 16G turbo that im gonna run at somewhere around 16psi. Will the starion cool good enough? Anyone with the FMIC what boost pressures are you running? Ive already got a starion fmic. Im going to modify the end tanks and put on 2.5" inlet and outlets. Im a machinist so doing the welding/fab. isnt a big deal. Is it worth the hassle or is the IC worthless? Ive obviously got the 1G stock SMIC now.
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I used to have a 420A...
'92 TSi AWD
11.8 @ 119mph 470awhp 405 ft/lb torque 30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo
#69486, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 0
Never used the starion, but from what others who have usded it, and also what info I can gather, is that the 1st gen SMIC is almost just as efficient as the Starion FMIC. Both start getting heat soaked at *around* 12-13 psi with a 16G. I ran 12 psi on the 1st gen SMIC for a long time, and intake temps when warm out, were in the 150's..def getting heat soaked. The core area of the Starion is larger obviously, so I would think its a *small* step up from the 1st gen side mount, but not much..IMO, save up the cash, and get the HRC universal FMIC..its only around 400 bucks, and since you can make your own piping, ect, it may be the best way to go. They claim it can flow/cool about 500-600 HP worth..I use it now, and its sweet..its pretty darn big
13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!) S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential fuel injection) My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net -1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy" -1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD) -2000 Honda CR-V(daily)
#69488, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 1
Originally posted by XtremeRS and get the HRC universal FMIC..its only around 400 bucks, and since you can make your own piping, ect, it may be the best way to go.
400 bucks for existing Hahn owners or for all that want that fmic? i would be interested in a better fmic than my star one if its only 400, is this right?
JayC used to run a custom t3 setup w/ a starion, he had to have the fmic fab'd b/c of the crazy inlet/outlet configuration. Probably cost him 75-100 bucks from a machine shop. If you know someone who can weld you could have a decent fmic for relatively cheap. For upto 15psi i'd say you'd be ok with it, just don't expect it to last long w/o heatsoaking.
#69489, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 2
I was looking at a few different IC's on eBay. And also te Hahn too. Not sure what Im gonna do. Ill probably end up selling the starion and going with a little larger FMIC
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I used to have a 420A...
'92 TSi AWD
11.8 @ 119mph 470awhp 405 ft/lb torque 30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo
#69491, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 2
Originally posted by MR BLUNT 2gnt
Originally posted by XtremeRS and get the HRC universal FMIC..its only around 400 bucks, and since you can make your own piping, ect, it may be the best way to go.
400 bucks for existing Hahn owners or for all that want that fmic? i would be interested in a better fmic than my star one if its only 400, is this right? JayC used to run a custom t3 setup w/ a starion, he had to have the fmic fab'd b/c of the crazy inlet/outlet configuration. Probably cost him 75-100 bucks from a machine shop. If you know someone who can weld you could have a decent fmic for relatively cheap. For upto 15psi i'd say you'd be ok with it, just don't expect it to last long w/o heatsoaking.
#69584, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 4
Originally posted by XtremeRS
Originally posted by MR BLUNT 2gnt
Originally posted by XtremeRS and get the HRC universal FMIC..its only around 400 bucks, and since you can make your own piping, ect, it may be the best way to go.
400 bucks for existing Hahn owners or for all that want that fmic? i would be interested in a better fmic than my star one if its only 400, is this right? JayC used to run a custom t3 setup w/ a starion, he had to have the fmic fab'd b/c of the crazy inlet/outlet configuration. Probably cost him 75-100 bucks from a machine shop. If you know someone who can weld you could have a decent fmic for relatively cheap. For upto 15psi i'd say you'd be ok with it, just don't expect it to last long w/o heatsoaking.
Pics installed? Curious as to how it will look inside the 2g front bumper..
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#69631, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 8
In your pics you have a side to side flow. I assume b/c this is the universal fmic. Is the normal one, seen here
still a top to bottom design? I'd like to keep the location of my Star piping just upgrade to the larger core. At 399 thats a steal. Does the piping take out the fog lights?
#69638, "RE: Starion FMIC question (If you've got one please read)" In response to Reply # 9 Apr-22-04 03:22 PM by XtremeRS
Originally posted by MR BLUNT 2gnt In your pics you have a side to side flow. I assume b/c this is the universal fmic. Is the normal one, seen here still a top to bottom design? I'd like to keep the location of my Star piping just upgrade to the larger core. At 399 thats a steal. Does the piping take out the fog lights?
Yeah, thats the one made for the 2g's. And yes, the Universal FMIC will take out your fogs if you have them. The oultet pipes of the IC are directly in the way of the fogs..My RS didn't have fog lights, so that was no issue for me. Also, you need to do a good sharp bend out of the IC, or else it will hit the side of those small air inlets next to each fog opening in the bumper. If you look at the piping in my pics, if the pipes come out any more than that, it will hit the side of those air openings. Just for info.. In this pic, you can see the red part of the piping in the fog openings, just to give an idea of where the pipes are in the bumper. You can see it through the mesh there..
13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!) S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential fuel injection) My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net -1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy" -1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD) -2000 Honda CR-V(daily)
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