I don't know about any of you other turbo guys but when I'm by myself my car feels great, very peppy and breaks the tires loose under full boost. But whenever I have a passenger in the car it feels slow as balls. I mean yeah I know there's a weight difference but I just had a girl who was only 115lbs and my car felt like a snail still. It took a bit just to hit 80. Eh, maybe it's in my head...I don't know.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

Because you're carrying around over 100lbs of weight you're not used to having. of course you're going to feel a performance hit. A lot of it is in your head, yes, but it DOES make a difference.

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'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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Ugh it feels stock again. I didn't think 115lbs would've made THAT much of a difference.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

Having a 150lb passenger in my car made a 0.04 second difference in my 1/4 mile times, back to back with no changes in an ATX.

This is why I have never bothered to "lighten" my car. I dont need to shave my times badly enough to ditch all the 2lb plastic interior components and have my car looking like a honda.

Passengers WILL make a significant difference in handling and auto-X though.

So this guy is saying it's not making much of a difference with weight, yet I'm feeling like a 5 second difference when I'm driving with a passenger.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

I very seriously doubt it is a 5 second difference. That is the part that is in your head.

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If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

it feels fine with just one person, but when i've got more than 1 passenger its really noticeable

plus they whine about not having enough headroom in the back...

i should just rip out my back seats completely

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Could it have anything to do with tire pressure maybe? I haven't checked pressure in forever.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon!

No, if you rode in it with me you'd understand. It just feels so sluggish. When I ride alone the wheels break loose at the top of first gear, I get mad torque steer and the car lunges forward. When someone is in the passenger seat my car just takes a dump and squats and when I floor it it'll feel like 60% throttle compared to when I'm alone.

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HAD: '98 Eclipse RS

HAVE: '04 Grand Prix GTP Comp G

an old rule of thumb is that for every 100lbs of weight savings you make, it can equate to 1/10th in the quarter mile under "ideal" conditions... this is used all day long when comparing titanium product to stainless.


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boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

200lbs = -1mpg

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