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ughhheadMar-17-04 11:33 AM
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#67175, "LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."


          

hey guys, i'm looking for a bunch of answers to a bunch of questions. i have a t3 turbo from a 1984 thunderbird turbo coupe. it's in great condition and i'm trying to get it ready for installation. i've seen many people saying that clocking the t3 turbo is a breeze. it was easy to clock, but i'm not sure if i've clocked it to the right orientation. the wastegate nipple is pointing right into the top of the compressor housing. also because of how it's clocked, i can only get on bolt hole to line up on the wastegate mount. it is bolted down good and it won't move. will this work, does anyone have any insight or suggestions with how i've clocked this. the way i have it now, the oil outlet is pointing straight down, is the oil inlet 180 degrees around the other side of the compressor? which is the coolant inlet and outlet?









the turbo has an a.r of .60. what does that mean, is that good? how does that compare with other t3's.


i was noticing that our (2gnt) o2 sensor fits perfectly in the t3's o2 sensor housing's hole . can this o2 sensor location be used or should i just weld and o2 bung in on the downpipe?



ok i think that's all the questions i have for now, thanks a million to anyone who can help me out. big TIA!!

  

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RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-17-04 11:36 AM, #1
RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., Uberingram, Mar-17-04 11:37 AM, #2
RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-17-04 11:47 AM, #3
RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., Uberingram, Mar-17-04 12:51 PM, #4
      RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., TeamXtremeRS, Mar-17-04 01:20 PM, #5
           RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., alain95i4, Mar-17-04 02:00 PM, #6
                RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-18-04 04:43 AM, #7
                     RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., alain95i4, Mar-18-04 04:51 AM, #8
                          RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., Moderatormicyek, Mar-18-04 07:37 AM, #9
                               RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-18-04 08:28 AM, #10
                               RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., Moderatormicyek, Mar-18-04 10:47 AM, #11
                                    RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-18-04 11:03 AM, #12
                               RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., alain95i4, Mar-18-04 12:13 PM, #13
                                    RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-19-04 03:44 AM, #14
                                         RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., alain95i4, Mar-19-04 03:52 AM, #15
                                              RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please., ughhhead, Mar-20-04 11:43 AM, #16

ughhheadMar-17-04 11:36 AM
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#67176, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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i absolutly hate imagestation. What the hell is wrong with their server, anyone else know of a free hosting site.

  

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#67177, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Mar-17-04 11:37 AM by Uberingram

          

guess not, nm

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ughhheadMar-17-04 11:47 AM
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#67178, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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now i remember another one of my questions... can some body give me a good link or something that shows me how to make my wastegate adjustable. thanks

  

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#67179, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Originally posted by ughhhead
i absolutly hate imagestation. What the hell is wrong with their server, anyone else know of a free hosting site.


www.kaptainmyke.com/forums

www.mustangmods.com

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#67181, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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off topic: Imagestation got smart and you can't link pics anymore..you used to be able to get away with it..not any more


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#67183, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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an 84 turbo may not be water-cooled only oil-cooled may ford turbo were like that

0.6 a/r is very good

you don't have to play with the orientation of the turbo it fits very well on the 420a engine with the right style of manifold

you could put your o2 sensor right at the exit of the turbo if you want to that's where it was on the Ford and Mitsubishi turbo car anyway

adjustable wastegate mod could be found here
http://www.denverspeed.com/wastegates.html

check Matt 420aVenger old web site it's custom project was built on a turbocharger similar to yours and one of my manifold
http://bush.clearwire.net/

Alain

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ughhheadMar-18-04 04:43 AM
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#67199, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Mar-18-04 04:46 AM by ughhhead

          

alain, thanks a bunch for those links and your help. i'm gonna try to load up those pics on a different server, thank you uber for those links. alain, there are four holes in the turbo, it's definitly water and oil cooled, not to mention, i can still smell the coolant. i've read about a few set ups that people have and don't even use the water and oil, just oil. that wastegate link was the best i've seen yet but still not very descriptive. alain, i will definitly be buying my manifold from you, you are still making them right? alright well i'm gonna try to get those pics up on another server. then maybe answering my questions would be alot easier. TIA! emoji

EDIT: i just went back and read your message again alain, i didn't see your signature, "the original maker of custom manifolds and still in business". i guess that answered my question, haha sorry.

  

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#67200, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Mar-18-04 04:54 AM by alain95i4

          

if the turbo is water-cooled anyone of the 2 holes could be used as a in or a out unlike the oil which need the right flow pattern
if the 2 holes are one above the other you use the upper one as the input so gavrity will work for you and not against you
if they are 1 on eaach side than you just do it like it fits your need and you car

the wg actuator is so simple, you cut the rod, you thread the rod, you bolt an external spring, and you reassemble the rod
doesn't take a bachelor degree to do that emoji

and yes I do manifold email for details

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#67204, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Alain, do you offset the turbo flage from center? My manifold was built with the flange right in the center witch cause a problem for me. I planed on using the ford O2 housing and waste gate but with the manifold constructed like it is caused the O2 housing to interfere with the AC lines. So I decide to take all that crap off and bought an external WG and welded a flange onto the manifold. That gave me some headaches but it turned out nice. It's just something that Ugghead might want to consider.

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ughhheadMar-18-04 08:28 AM
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#67205, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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nice quick replies, thanks again guys. alright now i have my pics loaded up on mustang mods. so here's what i was trying to show you guys in the first place. let me know if i should clock the turbo back to a differnt position. thanks!





  

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#67212, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Mar-18-04 10:50 AM by micyek

          

FYI






*edit*

I don't why it's doing it...but for some reason something is putt a 2gnt URL infront of my url...copy and paste just from www.buckysworld.net... on into your web browser.

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ughhheadMar-18-04 11:03 AM
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#67213, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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i figured i'd try and post them. didn't one of you guys say that it doesn't matter which inlet the coolant goes into? just making sure.
so what do you think about how i've clocked the compressor housing? is that the way it should be done or should i rotate it to a different orientation? thanks for all your help guys, i really appreciate it.

  

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#67220, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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Originally posted by micyek
Alain, do you offset the turbo flage from center?


the turboflange is always facing cylinder 3 unless the client wants it centered
by doing it with an offset you could route a better downpipe system and when you use a ford turbo like this garrett or the IHI rhb-52 of the 87-88 t-coupe you could also keep the ford o2 housing

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#67255, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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so alain, with your manifold, i would be able to use the ford o2 sensor housing? that would definitly make things alot easier. does anyone know if the way i've clocked the compressor housing is the right way? thanks

  

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#67256, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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yes you coule keep the o2 housing
check on the website that I gave you it's a ford o2 housing like yours on the turbo

don't touch the center section it's in the right position already

the only thing you could play with is the compressor housing but don't do until you are ready to built your pipping in the car

most peoples turn it to the outlet will go up instead of down, that nakes the job easier to do

Alain

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#67306, "RE: LOTS of questions about my Thunderbird T3 setup... help please."
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thanks for all your help guys. alain, i will be buying a mani off of you, not sure when, but it will happen.

  

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