im trying to setup my 14b and wanted to see some pictures if anyone has any.... im not sure if it would be best to clock the turbo and mess with the wastegate, or if theres a way of running the IC piping with the turbo stock...also, the wastegate actuator runs into the radiator fan, should i try to get a smaller one? is there a way around that.....any help is appreciated...i have a starion fmic im trying to match up to the 14b...thanks
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

clock the turbo and grind the tiny pin

life will be so easier after that

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

You have 2 problems if the exhaust manifold is like most of the aftermarket 420a manifolds that point the outlet towards the front of the car. The first thing is the oil drain - it'll be sideways. The second thing is that the compressor outlet would point right at the block.

If you're using an exhaust manifold that points the outlet downward(like stock) then you really only have one problem as far as clocking is concerned - the compressor outlet will point towards the exhaust manifold(if the compressor is on the drivers side). There are other issues with that kind of manifold, like the A/C starts to get in the way of the downpipe.

I'm using a manifold that points forward and I've clocked my 14b. It's not installed yet, but its clocked and assembled. The first important step is to make sure the center section flows oil straight down. I've got my compressor outlet is pointing downish. You can point it any way you like, it doesn't really matter. Well, its best to have the shortest path to your IC...but the important thing with the compressor outlet is to make sure your IC piping will have clearance.


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ok....umm, i have alain's manifold i believe...i bought it off of someone on this site and i believe its his.....anyways, it makes the 14b outlet point at the block like you said....now if i clock the turbo, im sure it will be easier, but then what about the wastegate actuator? i need to make a new bracket for it, and also, it hits the radiator fan...heres a picture...i have the radiator fan removed....give me some opinions and ideas...thanks...and also, if you have any pictures to share, please do so

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
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I could help you but none of your pictures works
email them to me at
alain95i4@hotmail.com

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

well they work when i look at them....ill try emailing you them... do you happen to have any pictures with the 14b? my email is lickscissors@hotmail.com
thanks
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

one of the 2.4 true pionners

I'm doing a custom 14b setup this summer.

What does clocked mean?

Joel Baldridge, ASE Certified Master Technician, Audi Certified Expert Technician

how the heck do you mount the wastegate actuator? i can clock it, but i dont know how to do that part....also, is he not water cooling his turbo? does he have the oem j part that comes off of the turbo... thanks, and if you could help me out with that actuator arm, i might be in business...thanks again for the help...if you can get the picture up, i would appreciate it...my sig pic is also from imagestation....how come everyone can see that one? thanks
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

I don't see your signature pic either



he probably cut the original rod while leaving parts of it on both ends change the position of the actuator and put a new rod shaped like an L, either bolted on both ends or welded
not a big deal acutally
if you want to do a custom turbo system expect to have to hack parts together once in a while, a wastegate actuator doesn't need to be in a straight line as long as it can move easily

as for water lines you could put them but you could live without them too

Alain

one of the 2.4 true pionners

Originally posted by WickedESi
I'm doing a custom 14b setup this summer. What does clocked mean?

one of the 2.4 true pionners

Joel Baldridge, ASE Certified Master Technician, Audi Certified Expert Technician

Sup, I was reading, and see that Alain is using my setup as an example, and some people are kinda confused about it.
Well, I did posted a detail post info on my finished custom setup and I still have some of the turbo setup picture hosted still.

Just go to here to check them all out!
http://www.rpi.edu/~leeg2/eclipse/turbo/

And about some quick lookup, this is my custom wastegate arm and etc...





Have fun with the turbo!
Gil

And I hope the above pic will help you!

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im installing a 14b in a week or so (waiting on intercooler pipes from jc whitney) I mounted my actuator a bit different than Gill. Yes you must rotate your housing, but you will want to determine where to rotate it to. And yes you must move the cartridge so the oil drain is pointing DOWN, if you don't you will fuck up your turbo and no one wants that. As far as the wastegate actuator I was able to move mine by using one of the stock bracket holes and rotating it about 150 deg(towards the down side) and using the good ol spring trick. Ill post some pic's as soon as I can. I have a freaking immagestation account and it has not been working. Acutaly if you want you can email me and I will send you a couple of pics. My eamil is kevjoh60@hotmail.com

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ok..my email is lickscissors@hotmail.com if you have any pictures.... the above pictures helped out a lot...did you mount the actuator to the stock bolt holes....also, can someone inform me of the oil inlet/outlet, and coolant inlet outlet....thanks again and keep the good info coming...
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

bump...could anyone tell me which holes are inlet/outlet for oil and the coolant? and if you could show me how you mounted your actuator i would appreciate it...thanks
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders

umm...i forget your name...but the person ^^^ that used the 14b i could use some help.... how and what did you use for the o2 sensor housing...did you cut the flange and weld your own downpipe? i was planning on using my greddy downpipe and just making the 2-3 foot section....do you have any pics of what you did close up...thanks and im sure ill have some other questions.... what intercooler are you using by the way..thanks
doug

14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
screw flanders