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Hult250RDec-18-03 10:26 AM
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#62366, "1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"




          

Thought Id see what you guys think too...
Look at the first reply? whatta ya think?

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=6535&mesg_id=6550#6550

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RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, TeamXtremeRS, Dec-18-03 11:29 AM, #1
RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, Hult250R, Dec-18-03 12:54 PM, #2
      RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, TeamXtremeRS, Dec-18-03 05:05 PM, #3
           RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, lickscissors, Dec-18-03 06:27 PM, #4
                RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, Teamner947, Dec-19-03 03:57 AM, #5
                     RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?, Skrilla, Dec-19-03 08:31 AM, #6

TeamXtremeRSDec-18-03 11:29 AM
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#62368, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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Well from what I have heard, from people who have run both, is that they both max out heat soak wise, pretty close to each other. I would say the Starion is just a bit better to go with, may even flow just a bit more CFM with less pressure drop over the SMIC. I'm running 13 psi with a S16G, and the 1st gen SMIC is getting heat soaked in warm weather, esp on long or track runs..I would say this is the max limit for the 1st gen SMIC. Others have said the Starion heat soaks around 13-14 psi on the S16G also...soo...


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fuel injection)

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Hult250RDec-18-03 12:54 PM
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#62378, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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Ok, Dumb question but how do you know when heat soak occurs?
Do you lose power?

Another thing... So a starion with a 16G and around 16psi probably wouldnt work?? or would it?? emoji

Thanks guys
~Luke

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I used to have a 420A...


'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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#62390, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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Dec-18-03 05:07 PM by XtremeRS

          

Originally posted by Hult250R
Ok, Dumb question but how do you know when heat soak occurs? Do you lose power? Another thing... So a starion with a 16G and around 16psi probably wouldnt work?? or would it?? emoji Thanks guys ~Luke


You can easily tell if your Ic is heat soaked by just feeling the inlet, and outlet pipes(carefully of course). The outlet pipe should be noticably cooler to the touch than the inlet. If they are about the same temp, then the IC is heat soaked. You can also feel the IC itself. The outlet side if it should be cooler too. Basically when the IC is heatsoaked, the IC is not really cooling the air charge at all, or very little. 16 PSI on the Starion is really maxing it out, but you may be able to get away with it, if you dont do any long full boosted runs, or many 1/4 mile track runs all in a row.. I would be the most concerned in very warm weather...


13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)

My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

  

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lickscissorsDec-18-03 06:27 PM
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#62392, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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i think in this case it comes down to looks...i was originally going to use the smic, but i went with the fmic for the looks...i still think it should cool a little better because it will be smack in the front instead of hidden behind the bumper...but i mainly got it for the looks
doug


14b custom turbo kit, modified starion front mount, 9.6:1 JE pistons/Eagle rods....running 12psi
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Teamner947Dec-19-03 03:57 AM
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#62404, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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run a 1G SMIC. more specifically, buy my old 1G SMIC. you know you want to.


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SkrillaDec-19-03 08:31 AM
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#62415, "RE: 1G SMIC or Starion FMIC?"
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Originally posted by ner947
run a 1G SMIC. more specifically, buy my old 1G SMIC. you know you want to.


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