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solareclipse98Oct-19-03 07:40 PM
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#58980, "Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
Oct-19-03 07:42 PM by solareclipse98

          

Okey so I took the head off... the kometic gasket that i had looks fine no tears or really anything that my eyes could see that looks out of the normal... when i first took the head off i thought i could see a crack in one of the rings on #1... but im not sure..

I didn't see anything that really stood out.. no visible block damage nothing real out of the norm. there was however, a lot of antifreeze in #4 but i'm not sure if that's from lifting the head off the remaining from what was inside the head?

in the antifreeze galleys on number 3 and 4 the antifreeze looks muddy.. kinda like milky..like it has been mixed with oil... I have turned the crank a few times and didn't see any cracks or block damage...

I have some pictures maybe somebody see's something i don't see... the gap on #1 compared to the gap on #2-4 around the cylender wall looks a little different but i dono..

Should I take the pistons out? What should be my next step...
I'm kinda frustrated and don't know what i should do next...

I really need suggestions.


Here are some pictures

this is a shot of #1 #2 #3

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E2323458794454ot1lsi


an other close up shot of #1 #2 #3
http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E232345879447%3Bot1lsi

this is a shot of #3 and #4... can't really see the milky antifreeze in this picture hopefully you can in others.

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E2323458795%3A6%3Bot1lsi

here is a better shot of #3 and #4 you can start to see the milky antifreeze on the lower part of the picture compared to the upper part....

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp3%3B%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E232345879596%3Aot1lsi


an other shot of #3 and #4
http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp8%3Enu%3D3237%3E288%3E2%3C4%3EWSNRCG%3D32325496%3A4%3B%3A%3Bnu0mrj

a closer shot of #3 and #4 of the milky antifreeze

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp8%3Enu%3D3237%3E288%3E2%3C4%3EWSNRCG%3D32325496%3A6437nu0mrj

here is a picture of #1 this is the one that had the low (60psi) compression not the gap between the cyl wall and the piston... you can kinda see the rings or can't you?

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E23234587973%3A%3Bot1lsi

a closeup picture of #1
http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp8%3Enu%3D3237%3E288%3E2%3C4%3EWSNRCG%3D32325496%3A6793nu0mrj

a wide shot of the engine compartment (oh my god this is scarry once everything is torn apart)

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E2323458798993ot1lsi

an other shot of #1

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E2323458799865ot1lsi

a top shot of all 4

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp3%3B%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E232345879%3A27%3Bot1lsi


an other top shot but this time you can see the milky antifreeze pritty good on the lower #3 and #4

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp3%3B%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E232345879%3B632ot1lsi

number 3 and 4 again

http://images.snapfish.com/3389858323232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E2328%3D379%3D3%3B5%3DXROQDF%3E232345879%3B697ot1lsi



let me know what you guys think...




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RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., eclipse_99rs, Oct-20-03 03:58 AM, #1
RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., extreme97nt, Oct-20-03 04:10 AM, #2
      RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., RxR_Eclipse, Oct-20-03 04:26 AM, #3
      RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., Administratoradmin2, Oct-20-03 06:11 AM, #4
           RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., solareclipse98, Oct-20-03 06:21 AM, #5
      RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., solareclipse98, Oct-20-03 06:31 AM, #6
           RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.., Blmet, Oct-20-03 07:05 AM, #7

eclipse_99rsOct-20-03 03:58 AM
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#58986, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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what was wrong to begin with? You say you see a gap in the top piston ring, but most pistonrings will have a small gap. i need more info to help you.



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extreme97ntOct-20-03 04:10 AM
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#58987, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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Your rings have Gaps in them in order to allow for expansion. If there is a gap between the ring and the cylinder wall then you stuck a ring. Everything looks normal on the bottom end. I would take a closer look at the head. Also look at the cylinder bore for cracks. You can coat your cylinder wall with lithium grease and turn the motor over. all of the grease should get wiped off by the rings. If not you have a problem. Also what rings did you use.

  

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RxR_EclipseOct-20-03 04:26 AM
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#58989, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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Yea man you should pull those pistons and examine them. I mean come on now. It only takesa bout 20 min to pull them from the point your at now.

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#59001, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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Show me the underside (sealing surface) of the head.

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solareclipse98Oct-20-03 06:21 AM
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#59002, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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Originally posted by admin2
Show me the underside (sealing surface) of the head.


I will post some pictures of the head tonight.... I may be thinking i have a bad head.. but the entire problem was i heard a little bit of knocking noise and then i did a compression check and i got this

#1 60psi #2 150 #3 152 #4 150

I'm thinking it's the head too but i think i'm going to try that greese deal... then i will pull the pistons.... i'm actually thinking eaither a cracked block or a bad head.

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Konig Five-O 17X8 Rims w/ Polished Lip
Blitz Turbo Timer /w Boost Gauge
Freshly Painted Calipers
Stillen Unorthodox Pulley
Stillen Front Nose / Bumper
Stillen Short Shifter
New RPS Clutch / Pressure Plate / Flywheel - Holds 550 ft lbs of Torque
New Fully-Built 5-Speed Transmission
New Howe Radiator w/ 18" Electric Fan w/ Auto Thermostat Controller
New Yokohama ES100 Tires All Around
New Tension Rods
New Fuel Injectors
New Spark Plugs
New Motor Mounts
New Vacuum Hoses
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solareclipse98Oct-20-03 06:31 AM
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#59005, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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I use the HRC rings. I'm so frustrated with all this... The only thing i didn't replace where the valves and the head was port polished and milled I don't know if i should just yank all my nice internal's out and buy an other block or used motor and have that one done or use this one... I really need suggestions..... should i figure out what's wrong with this one first? Where can i get the grease?

Formally Project Solar Eclipse
Now Entering 300ZX Land.

Jim Wolf ECU w/ Boost Jets
Jim Wolf Pop Charger Intake
Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Springs w/ Fully Adjustable Gas Shocks
B&B Exhaust - 3" w/ Dual 4.5 Oval Tips w/ 3" Test Pipes
Konig Five-O 17X8 Rims w/ Polished Lip
Blitz Turbo Timer /w Boost Gauge
Freshly Painted Calipers
Stillen Unorthodox Pulley
Stillen Front Nose / Bumper
Stillen Short Shifter
New RPS Clutch / Pressure Plate / Flywheel - Holds 550 ft lbs of Torque
New Fully-Built 5-Speed Transmission
New Howe Radiator w/ 18" Electric Fan w/ Auto Thermostat Controller
New Yokohama ES100 Tires All Around
New Tension Rods
New Fuel Injectors
New Spark Plugs
New Motor Mounts
New Vacuum Hoses
New Heater Core
New Fuel Filter
New Ignition Control Module
New Hicas (4-Wheel Steering) Lines
New Brake Pads / Brake Lines / Master Cylinder


  

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BlmetOct-20-03 07:05 AM
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#59009, "RE: Head Is Off *PICTURES* great... now what should i do.."
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you can get lithium grease from the hardware department of home depot, they keep it next to the wd40.

  

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