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siueclipseAug-25-03 10:52 AM
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#54755, "440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"


          

I might buy some 440cc injectors for a friend. I looked on hahn's site and they only sell 415cc injectors. So.. are the 440cc injectors the wrong impendance? Will I need a resistor pack or will they work just fine. He says they are for 1st gen and 2nd gen eclipses, so im assuming they are for the 4g63.

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RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-25-03 11:25 AM, #1
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-25-03 11:55 AM, #2
      RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-25-03 03:19 PM, #3
           RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), Moderatormicyek, Aug-25-03 03:33 PM, #4
           RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), TeamJasonESi_T, Aug-25-03 03:39 PM, #5
                RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-25-03 04:01 PM, #6
                     RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), pn0ymahal, Aug-25-03 04:41 PM, #7
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-26-03 09:38 AM, #8
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), TeamJasonESi_T, Aug-26-03 10:32 AM, #9
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-26-03 10:47 AM, #10
      RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), Moderatormicyek, Aug-26-03 12:21 PM, #11
           RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-26-03 03:34 PM, #12
                RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), Moderatormicyek, Aug-27-03 02:32 AM, #13
                     RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-27-03 05:32 AM, #14
                          RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), MrSlick, Aug-27-03 06:43 AM, #15
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-27-03 07:41 AM, #16
RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), MrSlick, Aug-27-03 08:33 AM, #17
      RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-27-03 08:50 AM, #18
           RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), Moderatormicyek, Aug-27-03 09:06 AM, #19
                RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =), siueclipse, Aug-27-03 09:45 AM, #20

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#54756, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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the 440's we usually just reer to as "440's" are typically from RC engineering. They are high impedance saturated injectors, just like stock. Have him test the resistance on them before you buy - 16ish ohms - saturated, 2-3 ohms - peak&hold.

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siueclipseAug-25-03 11:55 AM
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#54760, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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thank you very much

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siueclipseAug-25-03 03:19 PM
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#54770, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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just for my own curiosity, how do you test the injectors for which ohm they are?

thanx
James



  

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#54773, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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you need an ohm meter...go figure emoji j/p

But seriuosly...I have a digital multi-meter that can mesure resistance.

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#54775, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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They may also be the 45lb'ers from a Ford Lightening which are also high impedance.

They're also referred to as "green tops" in reference to their color which is almost a lime green.

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siueclipseAug-25-03 04:01 PM
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#54779, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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well, i can't decide what to do...

should i try and go with the 8 injector setup or just run some high injectors?



  

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#54784, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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well the 8-injector setup is alot better then when i was using a afc. but the choice is yours since its your time and money and tuning skills etc.
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siueclipseAug-26-03 09:38 AM
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#54850, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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my friend tested the injectors and he said they are doing 11ohm's. what does that mean? they arent 16ish like saturated, but they are peak & hold either.

any ideas?

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James



  

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#54857, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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>my friend tested the injectors and he said they are doing
>11ohm's. what does that mean? they arent 16ish like saturated,
>but they are peak & hold either.

11 ohms DOES mean they're saturated. I get about the same or closer to 12 ohms when I do a resistance check on my stockers.

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siueclipseAug-26-03 10:47 AM
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#54858, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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ok... this is odd.. this is his email back to me.. can someone help me make heads or tails of this?

"" I don't remember which company makes them, but I checked out the RC engineering web site and the ranges they gave for saturated injectors were between 12-16 ohms. I did just realize that I was using a very old multimeter to test them and since the resistance is measured using an onboard battery, it could explane why I got a low reading. The injectors were for my 2002 Eclipse, but the connectors wern't right. They are different from the 1 and 2G eclipse. I bought them before thinking about what I was buying. The car is currently a non-turbo, but the injectors are the only thing keeping me from installing it. They are for the 4G63 engine though. ""

Bryan


thanx
James



  

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#54871, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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Aug-26-03 12:22 PM by micyek

          

>ok... this is odd.. this is his email back to me.. can
>someone help me make heads or tails of this?
>
>"" I don't remember which company makes them, but I checked
>out the RC engineering web site and the ranges they gave for
>saturated injectors were between 12-16 ohms. I did just
>realize that I was using a very old multimeter to test them
>and since the resistance is measured using an onboard battery,
>it could explane why I got a low reading. The injectors were
>for my 2002 Eclipse, but the connectors wern't right. They are
>different from the 1 and 2G eclipse. I bought them before
>thinking about what I was buying. The car is currently a
>non-turbo, but the injectors are the only thing keeping me
>from installing it. They are for the 4G63 engine though. ""
>

Must be to use those in a 4g63 you have to take out the resistor pack....I guess....doesn't make a lot of since to me...

*edit*

oh...here is the schematic I've got wipped up for a resistor pack

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#54880, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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i wonder if they are for a 4g63 non turbo though

James



  

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#54887, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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>i wonder if they are for a 4g63 non turbo though
>
>James


Could be...but I think it would be a little odd to have such large injectors for a non turbo. But I've been thinking about this...and now that's it's morning and I have a clearer head, I think it would be pretty safe to get those. Like JasonESi T said...his stockers tested at 12ohms, and if your friends multimeter was reading inaccurately that might explain the 11ohms he was getting. Especially if it was one that uses a needle rather then a digital readout. An analog one might leave something the operator’s discretion.

I hope you get what your looking for soon.

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#54890, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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i went ahead and bought them, we'll see

thanx
James



  

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#54896, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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I'm running 450CC peak and hold injectors from a 1G DSM turbo in my Eclipse RS right now... It's not a problem. With a resistor pack it works fine... Imade my resistor pack myself, the ECU sees hte exact same resistence as the stockers....

The resistence isnt the only difference between the injectors though... but they should be fine.

Lee.

  

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siueclipseAug-27-03 07:41 AM
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#54903, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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well, i dont have a resistor pack

James



  

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#54908, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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SO make one... thats what I did.... or get a used one from an old DSM or an old Honda....

Lee.

  

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#54910, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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i didn't think that the 440s being saturated at 12ohms needed to have a resistor pack



  

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#54912, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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>i didn't think that the 440s being saturated at 12ohms needed
>to have a resistor pack


yep..you should be good to go sir. Good luck to you, and I hope everything works out splendidly emoji

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#54916, "RE: 440cc injector question - please respond quick =)"
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more BOOST

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