just curious what everyone with 310's and vortech sfmu and NO afc are running boost wise....i am at around 13 and thinking of just going to 16 with it.....later

13 was about the max i will run on those injects. Anything else will be really pushing it, as 13 is already quite a lot on them. I may try to get some 370 or so injectors to run a good 15-18 psi, and try and run low fuel pressure to make it all work without any AFC or anything else but the SFMU. I'm curious though, what are your fuel pressures at 13 psi? Prob close to 100 psi right?

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
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-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

yea i think about 90-95 not sure , i know my staticfuel pressure is set at35 and at 5 psi of boost im at 55psi of fuel.

HRC/Custom Stage 3 bla,bla
13.6 @106
@12psi

Yeah that sounds very close to my pressures. I get about 30 psi static, and about 50 psi at 5 psi boost, and 65-70 psi at 8-9 psi boost. If your EGT's look good at 13 psi at 95 psi of fuel, then squeezing one or two more pounds of boost might work. I will guess to run 15 psi, fuel pressure will be around 110 psi. Thats a lot of pressure. Fuel injectors dont like that much pressure, but if you try it, be careful.

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

no thats alright..im just gonna have to get bigger injectors....i just dont want to get a afc then a btm to control the advanced timming...so do you know what the biggest injector i can use without the afc and just using the sfmu....thanks btw..i set it at 35 static instead of 30 because i ported the head and at 10psi of boost it leans out quick and then flys up to rich

HRC/Custom Stage 3 bla,bla
13.6 @106
@12psi

You can run with 315 up to 14.5 psi at exactly 100 psi of fuel pressure.
Fuel Pressure - cc/min - lbs/hr - hp - cc/min - lbs/hr - hp - boost PSI - lbs/hr - @DC - hp@DC

30.0 262 24.91 190 266 25.37 193 -1.1 29.85 227
35.0 283 26.91 205 283 26.91 205 0.0 31.66 241
40.0 302 28.77 219 298 28.37 216 1.1 33.37 254
43.5 315 30.00 229 308 29.34 224 1.9 34.52 263
45.0 320 30.51 232 312 29.75 227 2.2 35.00 267
50.0 338 32.16 245 326 31.07 237 3.3 36.56 279
55.0 354 33.73 257 340 32.34 246 4.4 38.05 290
61.5 375 35.67 272 356 33.92 258 5.9 39.91 304
65.0 385 36.67 279 365 34.74 265 6.7 40.87 311
70.0 400 38.06 290 377 35.88 273 7.8 42.21 322
75.0 414 39.39 300 388 36.98 282 8.9 43.51 332
80.0 427 40.68 310 400 38.06 290 10.0 44.77 341
85.0 440 41.94 320 411 39.10 298 11.1 46.00 350
90.0 453 43.15 329 421 40.11 306 12.2 47.19 360
95.0 466 44.33 338 432 41.11 313 13.3 48.36 368
100.0 478 45.49 347 442 42.07 321 14.4 49.50 377
105.0 489 46.61 355 452 43.02 328 15.6 50.61 386
110.0 501 47.71 363 461 43.94 335 16.7 51.70 394
Try and read that graph it goes right across

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yeah, but not every motor/setup will be the same, plus as the fuel pressure go up that high, it tends to not be so linear. If you need 100 psi to run 14.5 psi boost according to the chart, real world fuel pressures may be well over that. From what i have heard, anything over 80-85 psi on an injector, is pushing it pretty hard. But i know when i ran stock injects i hit almost 120 psi on them before, and they still worked good.soooo..If anything, i say no more than 15 psi. Its just not a very good idea to run that high of fuel pressure. YOu can go the route i may take, by getting 36/37 lb injectors (equals 370 cc or close), and just run lower idle fuel pressure to get the fuel trims looking decent. IMO, that would be the largest injectors to use on the ECU without any SAFC or other means to correct for larger injectors, and by just using the SFMU and fuel pressure adjustment. With the 370cc or close size injects, you should be able to run upwards of 17-18 psi i would think.

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

cool...armond30 said you can use 440's with out the afc with the 2.72", but 370's sounds a little less difficult....whats the static and idle fuel pressures on 370's and what disc are you using?....still using the 2.72"? thanks jason

HRC/Custom Stage 3 bla,bla
13.6 @106
@12psi

haha i ran like 15 on it once, but it was a spike...daily driven 13

OFFTOPIC: damn fullservie, your car is f***ing NICE. is that a starion fmic?

you should post pics on dsmtuner's gallery.

New Car:
2004 350z base, Nismo CAI, pioneer avic-n1 (dvd, cd, navi)



Old Car:
1998 GS with hrc stage 2, HID 6000k conversion kit, AEM UEGO wideband, sfmu, ml, prokits, Greddy warning gauges: egt, boost gauge, and oil pressure, apexi tt, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler
Boostin since Aug 03.

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!

thanks...yea its a starion

HRC/Custom Stage 3 bla,bla
13.6 @106
@12psi

Well i'm still on the 310's, until i get my car back together and running. Once the motor is broken in, i may get the slightly larger injectors, so i dont have any real world numbers to give you yet. I dont think anyone on here is using them either. I will guess using the 2.42" or 2.72" disk, bleed valve for fine tuning. I will try and run a idle fuel pressure around 18 psi, static about 25 psi? I dont think i will be able to get my fuel trims close to stock, but enough to get it decent. I'll just have to try and see what happens.

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

cool, im doing it this weekend

HRC/Custom Stage 3 bla,bla
13.6 @106
@12psi