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bustrblue1Apr-13-01 01:57 AM
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#3708, "HRC and everyone"


          

hi. i was wondering if i got a stage 2 turbo kit from HRC how hard would it be to put a 20g turbo on it instead of the one that comes with it? would the intercooler be fine for awhile? and would this save me a litte money instead of buying EVERYTHING seperate for me going turbo. thanks

Matt

  

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RE: HRC and everyone, Armond30, Apr-13-01 06:21 AM, #1
RE: HRC and everyone, Skrilla, Apr-13-01 10:15 AM, #2
RE: HRC and everyone, bustrblue1, Apr-13-01 11:09 AM, #3
      RE: HRC and everyone, Skrilla, Apr-13-01 04:16 PM, #4
      RE: HRC and everyone, Armond30, Apr-13-01 04:33 PM, #5
           RE: HRC and everyone, bustrblue1, Apr-14-01 04:01 AM, #6
                RE: HRC and everyone, VendorHRC, Apr-14-01 05:30 AM, #7
                     RE: HRC and everyone, bustrblue1, Apr-14-01 06:46 AM, #8
                          RE: HRC and everyone, VendorHRC, Apr-14-01 02:06 PM, #9
                               RE: HRC and everyone, bustrblue1, Apr-14-01 02:17 PM, #10
                                    RE: HRC and everyone, Skrilla, Apr-14-01 03:20 PM, #11

Armond30Apr-13-01 06:21 AM
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#3709, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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It would save you time, money adn heartache just to buy a stage 2 HRC kit as is. A s-20G turbo is really too big for the stage 2 setup. You will need a big turbo like that if you are building your car top to bottom for max power. the 16 is a great turbo, and it definitely holds it's own. Bigger doesn't allways mean better in every situation.

Bring it on............

  

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SkrillaApr-13-01 10:15 AM
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#3710, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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It wouldn't be too much trouble as I'm pretty sure HRC can send it all to you without problem. Put simply the 20G is nothing more than a suped up 16G. Purchasing a complete kit won't be trouble. The lag is more, but unnoticeable at high pressure(like 12+PSI I suspect). It will save you money in the long run because you won't have to send your 16G back to HRC to be built into the 20G which will also cost you some change in shipping. Then, when your internals are ready, your system will be readily available for serious pressure. Now all you need are some 400cc+ injectors to support your fuel system.

Skrilla
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bustrblue1Apr-13-01 11:09 AM
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#3711, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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would i need another fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator or what? whats all included in the kit? i looked at the website and couldn't find the info. thanks a lot guys

Matt

  

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SkrillaApr-13-01 04:16 PM
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#3712, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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Nope, they would supply all the necessary equipment. This is sorta a custom job by HRC(not really though) and they would supply it, but you would have to call them up and speak to someone in sales, like Dan. He could most likely tell you what you wanted to know.

Skrilla
'97 Base Talon NA
"Technology: The Only Replacement for Displacement"
"Peace and Turbo Grease"

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by YourInMyMirror95GS
dick teaser's should be rounded up and shot in the forehead
Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon! emoji
Originally posted by Dark0ne
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Armond30Apr-13-01 04:33 PM
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#3713, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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everything that you will need is included in the kit.

Bring it on............

  

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bustrblue1Apr-14-01 04:01 AM
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#3714, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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could the intercooler that comes with it handle the 20g until i upgrade? does anyone know the price? i can't find it on their site. and thanks for the help!

Matt

  

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VendorHRCApr-14-01 05:30 AM
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#3715, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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To date, we would not sell a Stage II kit with a Super 20G due to the fact that the fuel system is not safely capable of accomodating the greater CFM of airflow that the 20G will produce per pound of boost as compared to the Super 16G. The results are a mismatch: a turbo that produces excellent hi HP, but an inability to get to that HP due to fuel system limits, as well as the possiblity of having insuffucient fuel supply. We prefer not to go there, with your best interests in mind.

As a Super 16G can be easily converted to 20G specs at a later date, and economically at that, the best bet is to go with the well-proven Stage II with Super 16G, and spend a few exta bucks on our new FMIC instead. You will have a very powerful and proven setup, and when you wish to step up in the future, you will only need to upgrade the turbo: everything else you have already purchased will work from Stage II to Stage V! Add the pistons/rods, our Auxiliary Management System, and an ignition amp, (maybe our new 3" Eliminator 420A downpipe if you are really going for it) and prepare for a streetable 11 second car that is not an experiment, it is a proven package.

Bill Hahn Jr.
98 RS Turbo: 10.87 @ 136 MPH
HRC Stage V with N20
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bustrblue1Apr-14-01 06:46 AM
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#3716, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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whats the price for the stage II? and whats the price for the upgrade and the othe mentioned items? and i was thinking of getting the stae II then selling that turbo, then buying a 20g and upgrading the pistons, rods, rings, and fuel system. wouldn't that work? wouldn't that save me a little money? thanks

Matt

  

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VendorHRCApr-14-01 02:06 PM
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#3717, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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I can give you ballpark prices (our sales department guys don't work on weekends unless there's a race to do):

Starting at Stage II costs $2800. Adding our BIG FMIC upgrade adds $300. Later, convert the turbo to 20G for $400. Add pistons and rods for $1200. Pick up our Auxiliary Management System and 625cc injectors for $1350. Add a good exhaust and an ignition amp like an MSD or Crane HI-6.

Bill Hahn Jr.
98 RS Turbo: 10.87 @ 136 MPH
HRC Stage V with N20
Nation's Fastest Street FWD 2G DSM
www.turbosystem.com

  

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bustrblue1Apr-14-01 02:17 PM
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#3718, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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thanks for the prices. man, i wish you guys had a financing plan or something lol! i can get the pistons and rods cheaper by myself. will i need the Auxiliary Management System and the ignition amp? thanks

Matt

  

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SkrillaApr-14-01 03:20 PM
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#3719, "RE: HRC and everyone"
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"will i need the Auxiliary Management System and the ignition amp?"

No but I would suggest an Ignition Amp.

Skrilla
'97 Base Talon NA
"Technology: The Only Replacement for Displacement"
"Peace and Turbo Grease"

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by YourInMyMirror95GS
dick teaser's should be rounded up and shot in the forehead
Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon! emoji
Originally posted by Dark0ne
Thanks. Now excuse me while i fuck your sister.
"fuck all motor" -turbo ate you

  

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