Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 2 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Turbo/Nitrous Tech topic #36545
View in linear mode

Subject: "160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars" Previous topic | Next topic
TeamDeanoDDec-28-02 07:51 AM
Donating 2GNT member
1099 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36545, "160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"


          

Who is actually using the neon 160 degree thermostat on their turbo 420A car?

Any problems with fuel trims(running richer than it was it had a stock 195 degree thermostat)?

The price is cheap and I thought this might help reduce detonation. My water temp stays between 201-207 during hard multiple 10psi pulls in 70degree weather.

I read all the normally aspirated guys posts about having temps of approx. 170-180 degrees. My stft/ltft pull all the idle fuel when the water temp gets to 125 degrees, so if I had water temp of 170 degrees it should be fine.

Any thoughts?


97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Kiku, Dec-28-02 02:57 PM, #1
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Matt_95tgs, Dec-29-02 09:16 AM, #2
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Avenger EST, Dec-29-02 09:14 AM, #3
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Kirby, Dec-30-02 12:11 PM, #4
      RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, TeamDeanoD, Dec-30-02 03:39 PM, #5
           RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, dsmlights, Dec-30-02 04:08 PM, #6
                RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Kirby, Dec-31-02 08:40 AM, #7
                     RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, TeamDeanoD, Dec-31-02 10:09 AM, #8
                          RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, Kiku, Dec-31-02 10:25 AM, #9
                               RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, pn0ymahal, Aug-11-03 08:20 PM, #10
                                    RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-11-03 08:44 PM, #11
                                         RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, grain, Aug-12-03 02:00 AM, #12
                                              RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Teamner947, Aug-12-03 05:50 AM, #13
                                                   RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Matt_95tgs, Aug-12-03 07:18 AM, #14
                                                        RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, HadesOmega, Aug-12-03 12:00 PM, #15
                                                             RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, pn0ymahal, Aug-12-03 12:18 PM, #16
                                                                  RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Chamuko, Aug-13-03 10:57 AM, #17
                                                                       RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, freddy_00_69, Aug-13-03 11:02 AM, #18
                                                                            RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Axewhlder, Aug-13-03 12:41 PM, #19
                                                                                 RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, pn0ymahal, Aug-13-03 02:00 PM, #20
                                                                                      RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?, Axewhlder, Aug-13-03 05:35 PM, #21
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, fly1, Aug-13-03 06:41 PM, #22
RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars, pn0ymahal, Aug-14-03 06:36 AM, #23

KikuDec-28-02 02:57 PM
Old School 2GNTer
642 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36546, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 0




          

I have the howell neon 160degree thermo and it's great. The car does run a bit richer than usual (which can be good) but i adjust that with my safc.

My temps run anywhere from 196-207 which the high temp is usually when i'm beating the crap out of my car.

I'm turbo'ed also...hrc stage 3.

_________________
Vinnie Lima
vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 3 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

_________________
Vinnie Lima
vlima@csc.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Matt_95tgsDec-29-02 09:16 AM
Donating 2GNT member
1246 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36547, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 1


          

I also run that stat with success. I didn't notice any difference in fuel trims after I installed mine, and after hard WOT pulls, the coolent temp stays around 205. When cruising at around 50-60 mph the coolent temp stays around 175-180. I would imagine that with a fluidyne radiator, you would see lower. mmore consistant temps.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Avenger ESTDec-29-02 09:14 AM
Member since Nov 19th 2001
658 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36548, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 0


          

I use it. I don't know what it does wiht my fuel trims. I don't use them. my water temp does get "pretty dang low" on the expressway at night 'though (needle starts falling down again). my oil temp is usu. at about 100 to 110 at those times (if I am driving hard).

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on............

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on...........

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
KirbyDec-30-02 12:11 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2181 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36549, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 3




          

I have it I run it and I have no idea what it did to my fuel trims. It keeps me nice and cool on the temp guage though.



I edited to the wiki!

Originally posted by DR1665
NOTE TO SELF: Go commando to wedding. Scar the Irishman for life.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
TeamDeanoDDec-30-02 03:39 PM
Donating 2GNT member
1099 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36550, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 4


          

Thanks guys, I am going to order it in the morning.



97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
dsmlightsDec-30-02 04:08 PM
Member since Apr 21st 2002
352 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36551, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 5


          

hey can you please post site or link where i can buy one i want one too.

thanks

laterz

DsM Power Soon to be turbo yahhhhhh

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
KirbyDec-31-02 08:40 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2181 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36552, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 6




          

WWW.howell.com



I edited to the wiki!

Originally posted by DR1665
NOTE TO SELF: Go commando to wedding. Scar the Irishman for life.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
TeamDeanoDDec-31-02 10:09 AM
Donating 2GNT member
1099 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36553, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 7


          

I would bet that Howell will not have what you want.

I am going to order mine from http://www.howellautomotive.com

I am not sure if it comes with gaskets.....it should though.


97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
KikuDec-31-02 10:25 AM
Old School 2GNTer
642 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#36554, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 8




          

No it does not come with gaskets.

_________________
Vinnie Lima
vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

_________________
Vinnie Lima
vlima@csc.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
pn0ymahalAug-11-03 08:20 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2621 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53870, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 9




          

hey guys, is it this one? i dont think the years matter right? and we just use our stock thermostat gasket instead of the neon one right?
anyone find this at a auto store or company name?
thanks

http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_113_245&products_id=229
Michael
99gs
HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneAug-11-03 08:44 PM
Donating 2GNT member
14955 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53872, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 10




          

Just order it from Howell. it's only $12, and you're supporting a 2GNT vendor.

I have one and love it. No idea how low my water temps go, but the needle will fall down to around the 1/4 point when i've been cruising on the freeway for several minutes.

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                    
grainAug-12-03 02:00 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2551 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53876, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 11


          

does anyone else carry this item? i really dont want to order it from them.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                        
Teamner947Aug-12-03 05:50 AM
Donating 2GNT member
3168 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53887, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 12




          

i don't have a thermostat. IMO during the summer you can take it out without any problems. i haven't had any issues. however, it would definately take forever for the car to heat up without a thermostat in the winter time...


2016 WRX STi Limited (current)
2001 A4 1.8tqms (donated)
1991 GVR4 #1933 (sold)
old.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=218 (dismantled)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                            
Matt_95tgsAug-12-03 07:18 AM
Donating 2GNT member
1246 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53895, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 13


          

Not having a thermostat in is not a very good idea. The car needs to be at operating temperature to run properly which is above 150 I believe on our cars. Also, when you are making hard pulls, your temp needs to be around 170 at the minimum or you can have problems with warping the head. What happens when you don't have a thermostat is that the coolant from the radiator gets recirculated all of the time instead of just when the thermostat is open. This way, when just cruising, you can see coolant temps around 120 deg or so. Well, when you go from cruising to a good WOT pull, those temps will go from 120 to 200 degrees in a fairly short order. That rapid change in temperature, causes the head to expand rapidly and unevenly causing the head to warp slightly. When this happens, your headgasket is much more vulnerable to damage as well.

Matt
1995 Eclipse GS
2.0L, S16g Turbo, 8 Injectors, 26psi

1998 Eclipse GSX
2.3L Stroker, AEM EMS Converted to Speed Density, FP3065 Turbo, 35psi , and so on...

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                
HadesOmegaAug-12-03 12:00 PM
Old School 2GNTer
4529 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53917, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 14


          

so this is a good cheap alternative to getting a bigger radiator?


http://www.hadesomega.info -car specz and movies 95 Eclipse RS | 76' 280Z | 89' MR2 | 99 Neon | 91 Zephyr
Who sez FF can't drift?

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                    
pn0ymahalAug-12-03 12:18 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2621 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53919, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 15




          

was that ^^^ the correct one? its like $16...
thanks
Michael
99gs
HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                        
ChamukoAug-13-03 10:57 AM
Donating 2GNT member
3668 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53977, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 16




          

I want to know also...only one on there.

Member # 751


FOUNDER of the Central Cali chapter of 2GNT!
(I got kicked out after I refused to go Cow tiping) - Hehehe you know who this is for

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                            
freddy_00_69Aug-13-03 11:02 AM
Member since Aug 01st 2002
1119 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53978, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 17




          

I just ordered mine now from Howell automotive, a friend told me to get one and it seems it is very helpful coming from the turbo 2gnt'ers here, thanks for the good information about the temps.


99 RS-T
"New bottom end(8.6:1 w/long rods)"
Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                                
AxewhlderAug-13-03 12:41 PM
Member since Feb 20th 2002
145 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53986, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 18




          

I ordered mine yesterday and got it today. Only thing about it was it came with a rubber gasket on the outside that I had to take off. Got it for 21.00 shipped to my door via UPS. Took all of 15 minutes to put in.
I didnt take my car out for a run yet because my inspection is up. Tommorow I'm going to take it out and get it inspected and see how it goes. I was overheating BAD on long hijgway trips. Hopefully this will help.

HRC Stage II Turbo

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                                    
pn0ymahalAug-13-03 02:00 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2621 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#53993, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 19




          

so you removed the rubber gasket on it and used a stock (new) gasket for our cars?
so is this the one you got?
http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_113_245&products_id=229

Michael
99gs
HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                                        
AxewhlderAug-13-03 05:35 PM
Member since Feb 20th 2002
145 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#54017, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars this one?"
In response to Reply # 20




          

Yup. That's the one. I took off that rubber peace you see around it. The stock one didnt have that. The gasket that connected the housing was still good so I reused it. I'll take her out for a romp tommorow and make sure there's no leaks. Didnt have any when I warmed it up though so I'm assuming it's good to go.

HRC Stage II Turbo

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

fly1Aug-13-03 06:41 PM
Donating 2GNT member
1470 posts,
Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#54030, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 0


          

I also use the 160 degree stat. I guess it helps a little. After hard pulls, I used to see about 210 deg. Fah., now I see about a 205-206 degrees. However, I did notice that it takes my car longer to reach normal operating temp. Maybe my EGR system mod also contributes to the longer warm up temp.

___________
Kon C

"Sometimes, a man has to do what a man has to do."

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
pn0ymahalAug-14-03 06:36 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2621 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#54054, "RE: 160 degree thermostat on our turbo cars"
In response to Reply # 22




          

free shipping from howell right now.. so i bought one last night.. as of right now its being ship out.
cool
Michael
99gs
HRC Stage IV 8-Injector Setup
2GNT Member #32

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Turbo/Nitrous Tech topic #36545 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.071 seconds, executing 60 queries.