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lazerusDec-13-02 02:13 PM
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#35926, "Complete Custom Turbo kit.."


          

Hey guys.. i've been kind of following this forum for a little while,
i just finished with my completely custom turbocharger kit Which includes:

1.) Custom fabbed manifold (i made it)
2.) 1st Gen Eclipse Intercooler with 1 rotated outlet
3.) 1st Gen Eclipse Bov.
4.) NOS Nitrous oxide kit w/ 25 shot (wet TB)
5.) 2 1/2 inch mandrel bend exhaust (homemade)
6.) Eclipse Auto Trans 390cc/min injectors
7.) Apexi Safc Setup up for fuel metering per manifold pres.
8.) Autometer A/f and Boost guages.
9.) T3 turbocharger .48 A/r Compressor .42 Exhaust

That's bout it i think, I've been working on the kit for the past about 3 weeks, and it hink it's turned out pretty good. Ceck this pic out before i had the i/c piping and before i'd started it...



As soon as my shipment of a "wrx alike" powdercoat comes in, the charge pipes and valve cover will be done.

Tell me what you guys think!

Bradly


  

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RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., randy, Dec-13-02 02:30 PM, #1
RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-13-02 02:38 PM, #2
      RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aVenger, Dec-13-02 04:05 PM, #3
           RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-13-02 04:23 PM, #4
                RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., alain95i4, Dec-14-02 12:28 AM, #5
                     RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., RxR_Eclipse, Dec-14-02 03:07 AM, #6
                          RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., Tommyboy, Dec-14-02 04:21 AM, #7
                               RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aturbo, Dec-14-02 09:02 AM, #8
                               RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-14-02 11:39 AM, #9
                                    RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., TeamMetalJim, Dec-14-02 01:14 PM, #10
                                    RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aVenger, Dec-14-02 01:44 PM, #11
                                    RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., widebodied, Dec-14-02 02:15 PM, #12
                                         RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-14-02 02:38 PM, #13
                                              RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., RxR_Eclipse, Dec-14-02 03:11 PM, #14
                                                   RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., ModeratorEvuLFleA, Dec-14-02 03:21 PM, #15
                                                        RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., The1Bill, Dec-14-02 04:25 PM, #16
                                                             RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., chrysler kid, Dec-14-02 07:41 PM, #17
                                    RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aturbo, Dec-14-02 11:43 PM, #18
                                         RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-15-02 03:25 AM, #19
                                              RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., MotoFool, Dec-15-02 05:04 AM, #20
                                              RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., TeamMetalJim, Dec-15-02 05:06 AM, #21
                                                   RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., randy, Dec-15-02 12:12 PM, #22
RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., TeamXtremeRS, Dec-15-02 02:11 PM, #23
RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-15-02 02:25 PM, #24
      RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aVenger, Dec-15-02 02:31 PM, #25
           RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-15-02 02:48 PM, #26
                RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aVenger, Dec-15-02 03:36 PM, #27
                     RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., Ryan_RS, Dec-15-02 05:52 PM, #28
                     RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-15-02 06:54 PM, #29
                          RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., Collente, Dec-16-02 06:36 AM, #30
                     RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., babybeclipse, Dec-16-02 06:08 AM, #31
                          RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-16-02 06:32 AM, #32
                               RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., 420aVenger, Dec-16-02 06:51 AM, #33
                                    RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., stoyboycs, Dec-17-02 03:11 AM, #34
                                         RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-17-02 09:29 AM, #35
                                              RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., Teamner947, Dec-17-02 05:11 PM, #36
                                                   RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., RyaN95i4, Dec-17-02 05:27 PM, #37
                                                        RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., lazerus, Dec-19-02 04:52 AM, #38
                                                             RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.., babybeclipse, Jan-02-03 05:00 AM, #39

randyDec-13-02 02:30 PM
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#35927, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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"Eclipse Auto Trans 390cc/min injectors"
Is this off a auto 4g63 turbo? How did you get it to work?

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lazerusDec-13-02 02:38 PM
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#35928, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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used the proper O-rings to make them fit in the fuel rail, and safc to tune them down.

they push 60% more fuel in, so i have to take out about 30-40% Fuel when not under boost, and then progressively less from there.

  

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420aVengerDec-13-02 04:05 PM
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#35929, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Did you use a resistor pack? You know they are low impedance right? We need high impedance ones.

  

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lazerusDec-13-02 04:23 PM
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#35930, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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>Did you use a resistor pack? You know they are low
>impedance right? We need high impedance ones.

Yes, forgot to mention that...

You gotta love radio shack for that.

  

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#35931, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Nice works !

And another perfect example of something that i'm telling for 2 years now
Garrett T3 and look-alikes from other manufacturers almost have the wprd Eclipse/Talon/Avenger/Sebring ready written on them

See how nice it fits in the engine bay ?
Why reinventing the wheel with turbos from first or second gen eclipse when the solution comes from Ford, Saab, Volvo etc

Alain

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#35932, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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good job man... what are you using for fuel enrighment besides the injectors? A SFMU or the cartech regulator. And what fuel pump did you go with.?

Also how long do you think that copper paint will last? Also how much boost are you planning on running?

Kevin
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TommyboyDec-14-02 04:21 AM
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#35933, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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where did you get the piping to make your mainifold it looks pretty damm strong. I was thinking of getting a mig welder and start teaching myself how to weld. can you give me a link

  

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#35934, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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I was thinking the same thing as Tommyboy. Where did you buy the flanges and piping for the turbo manifold? It does look pretty beefy. The manifold looks surprisingly like Alain's too!

Also, do you relize that from the perspective of the picture that the lower intercooler piping elbow coming off the compressor looks as if it's going to hit the head.

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lazerusDec-14-02 11:39 AM
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#35935, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Here's a pic after driving it for a few hours.




the copper spray turns the color you see here, kind of like a primer gray. and it stays forever it doesn't burn off.

Umm, Fuel pump is stock fuel pressure is stock.

Fuel management Via Safc BOOST. Works great i recommend it to anyone.

Idle is like stock with the larger injectors, and gas mileage is great too, as non-boost conditions i have set at about -50% on the Safc.

The manifold is made up of Weld-ell's And Butt-weld pipe. Schedule 40 pipe. The header flange and Turbo flange i made myself, as well as the intercooler piping and everything else. 100% Custom! 25 shot of nos (wet) 1st gen DSM bov you can see mounted down below, and custom welded brackets to mount the intercooler. It pulls MUCH harder!

Boost controller i also made myself, which i will make for anyone for 30 dollars! it's not a bleed, it's a "hobbs type" pressure switch, which works perfect.



Brad

  

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#35936, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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I like it. Good job Brad.


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#35937, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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>>>Umm, Fuel pump is stock fuel pressure is stock.<<<

>>>as non-boost conditions i have set at about -50% on the Safc<<<




Be careful!!!

  

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#35938, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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i bet alot of people would like to know, how much you have invested in this homemade kit.

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lazerusDec-14-02 02:38 PM
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#35939, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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The stock fuel pump is plenty capable of flowing the amount of fuel needed at stock pressures.

Total invested into kit.. .hrmmmm

I have MANY hookups, but let me think...

About 600 dollars. 300 of it being the Safc, So go from there emoji

Noone could do it for less than i did, i'm sure of it.

I'll build you guys manifolds if you're interested for 225 + shipping. having it coated is extra $ unless you would like a copper coat which i can apply and heat treat before i ship them. and trust me, they are VERY strong! Mig welded or dual shield. Whichever i feel like running.

I could probably turn up the boost more as i have PLENTY of fuel to play with. But playing it safe on a stock engine.

Bradly

  

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#35940, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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What kind of spray is that? My turbo is looking kinda .....'old' and I would like to freshen it up with something...


Kevin
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#35941, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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So what kind of fuel system are you running?

Oh yeah, RXR, why not just sand your turno. Looks damn shiney afterwards.

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#35942, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Leaning out with the sAFC decreases how much load the PCM think that the engine is under. This means that it will advance the timing. Just be careful in tuning it, as you need to tune more then just the fuel, you also need to tune the timing.
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#35943, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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lazerus where u located at? what car did you take the manifold off of or did you just modify the stock one with other pipes?

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#35944, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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>The manifold is made up of Weld-ell's And Butt-weld pipe.
>Schedule 40 pipe. The header flange and Turbo flange i made
>myself, as well as the intercooler piping and everything
>else. 100% Custom! 25 shot of nos (wet) 1st gen DSM bov you
>can see mounted down below, and custom welded brackets to
>mount the intercooler. It pulls MUCH harder!


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lazerusDec-15-02 03:25 AM
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#35945, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Boost is set at 6 lbs. No detonation at part throttle or full throttle yet. this motor wont' see more than 6 lbs. Based on tuning, under 6 lbs i have the a/f ratios at about 9-11:1 or therabouts, a bit rich, but it's what i want right now. I probably will end up backing the timing up a few degree's, but we'll see. I need to monitor IAT's to see how efficient my boost is. The plugs are looking good so far, and i see no signs of any detonation whatsoever.

I'm not using any other fuel enrichment than larger injectors and Safc.

When you keep the stock pressure, the pump is capable of higher flow. And it seeems to be working fine.

And as for the color of my manifold. If you'rs is RUSTY and CRAPPY looking. (As well as your turbine housing)

what you do, is you go down to Autozone/napa/checker any parts store, and get yorself a can of "Copper gasket spray"

It's usually about 6 bucks, and what you do is you spray the whole entire thing, untill it is covered with the copper. It will COMPLETELY STOP the rust, and will give it the "Iron Gray" color as you see in the last picture i posted of my engine bay.

It's a very durable coating, and it doesen't "chip off" and if it does, just spray it again!

Brad

oh yeah, and i'm located in Orem UTAH

  

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#35946, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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hey if u can get more picture of the manifold i may be interested in one, what flanges do u have it setup with garret or mitsubishi?

im assuming garret but it is early in thr mourning for me =)

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#35947, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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I don't know if you've done this or not, but if you do run into pressure problems then you may be able to get a bit more out of the stock pump by rewiring it. Here's Corbin's writeup from the mods section : http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/rewire.html


ride__________95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
power________Field SFC Hyper-R : Gude cams : Jeep TB : AFX UDP : ram air : test pipe : GST catback
suspention___Hurricane F/R lower strut ties : BOMZ F/R upper strut bars : ES inserts
sound________Kenwood KDC 5000 : Audiovox 8" sub toob - no sub amp(damnit!)
shizzle_______AutoCommand remote start : dual air horns : Caspers o2 simulator(rear)
incomming___Bosal header
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
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#35948, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Do you happen to have a write up on how you wired up the 390cc?

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#35949, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Hey could you get another close up pic of the turbo now that the copper coating turned its color. I'd like to see the final result of that copper spray just a bit better....


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#35950, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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never mind the shop rag in the Oil cap.. HAHA



  

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#35951, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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I like my rusty housing better emoji I'm definately doing that to mine. Thanks for he tip!!!

  

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lazerusDec-15-02 02:48 PM
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#35952, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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:-) where are some pics of your engine bay? i'd like to see.

  

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#35953, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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#35954, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Looks great, goodwork -- Custom downpipe?

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lazerusDec-15-02 06:54 PM
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#35955, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Mine? lol YES EVERYTHING is custom i made it! lol

  

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#35956, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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OREM UTAH!!
I LIVE IN SPRINGVILLE.
I have never seen your car around, I also have a custom kit. I spent about quadrouple what you spent & looks about half as nice emoji
I would like to meet you somewhere, and talk. Maybe get a local dsm group going. Anyways congrats on the kit.

Nick
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Custom IHI Stage2
Obx exhaust, Limo Tint,
Custom interior, Upper Strut Bar, Kenwood/pioneer stereo.

Nick
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#35957, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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420aVenger- emoji Why did you run the IC piping the way you did?

lazerus- Nice kit. Is your car auto or manual?

  

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lazerusDec-16-02 06:32 AM
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#35958, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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It's a Manual. But the 3rd gear synchs are goin out... damn cheap syncrhos.

  

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420aVengerDec-16-02 06:51 AM
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#35959, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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>>>420aVenger- Why did you run the IC piping the way you did?<<<

It's all I could do w/ the piping I had at the time. I'm impatient and wanted to get it done and not wait for more pipe. It's all getting redone for the FMIC so I just left it for now.

  

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stoyboycsDec-17-02 03:11 AM
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#35960, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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what size pipe did you use for the manifold? I'm also making one well having a friend make one and would like to know.

Thanks,
Chris

I was right there with him untill the light turned green.

  

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lazerusDec-17-02 09:29 AM
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#35961, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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The pipe is 1 7/8, and 2"

  

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Teamner947Dec-17-02 05:11 PM
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#35962, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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420aVenger, that piping configuration is crazy! i've never seen anything like that done before. looks like you moved your battery, and your PCM? or am i just drunk and is the avenger layed out slightly differently? your setup is really original and i think it looks cool. getting a FMIC sounds insane, wish i had that kind of cash to fork over and replace my 1g SMIC. well, it works well for now with stage 2 boost levels. anyways, i'm done now.


2016 WRX STi Limited (current)
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old.dsmregistry.com/detail.php?carid=218 (dismantled)

  

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#35963, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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>420aVenger, that piping configuration is crazy! i've never
>seen anything like that done before. looks like you moved
>your battery, and your PCM? or am i just drunk and is the
>avenger layed out slightly differently? your setup is really
>original and i think it looks cool. getting a FMIC sounds
>insane, wish i had that kind of cash to fork over and
>replace my 1g SMIC. well, it works well for now with stage 2
>boost levels. anyways, i'm done now.


Naw, the avenger has the identical layout.

Matt relocated the battery, and if you look closely, you can see he move the PCM to where the battery used to be

that copper spray idea is interesting...looks a lot better than the maroon rust color i have going, lol

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lazerusDec-19-02 04:52 AM
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#35964, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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it stops rust in it's tracks, too.

  

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babybeclipseJan-02-03 05:00 AM
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#35965, "RE: Complete Custom Turbo kit.."
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Hey, would you sell your manifolds? I'm getting a deal on a t25 with 60k on it and I LUV your manifold.

please please please emoji

  

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