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SemperboostOct-24-02 09:47 AM
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#33279, "Too much fuel during startup"


          

So lately my car's been acting up - Everytime I try to start it, it wants to turn over, but it sputters. I have to unplug the ECU (motor fuse) to get it to turn over. Then it'll stay rich for a minute or two. So then I try disconnected the fuel pump and starting it up -it starts up then dies. Then restart and it's good to go. So I guess I'm getting too much fuel during startup. What could be the problem of this? My car runs fine even at idle the A/F sweeps, but everytime I start it back up it doesn't wanna go. Help please?



Alvin

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RE: Too much fuel during startup, RoboTechDSM, Oct-25-02 02:24 AM, #1
RE: Too much fuel during startup, fly1, Oct-25-02 05:32 AM, #2
      RE: Too much fuel during startup, RoboTechDSM, Oct-25-02 03:09 PM, #3
           RE: What path does fuel take to the rail?, Semperboost, Oct-26-02 01:56 AM, #4
RE: Too much fuel during startup, BeefGG, Oct-26-02 04:58 AM, #5
RE: Too much fuel during startup, WIKKI, Oct-26-02 06:10 PM, #6
      RE: Too much fuel during startup, jamesman, Oct-28-02 02:49 AM, #7
           RE: Too much fuel during startup, Semperboost, Oct-28-02 12:18 PM, #8

RoboTechDSMOct-25-02 02:24 AM
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#33280, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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I don't have the answer to your problem, but I got the same delimna sometimes. When I start her in the morning, for some reason, I run extremely rich that it sounds like the motor is drowning in so much fuel. It sputters then let loose a small cloud of black smoke in the back. I'm not sure if this is what I hear, but I can hear all that extra fuel going through the fuel rail really loud. I pop the hood and my fuel pressure gauge was sitting at around 50 psi, weird huh. After a few minutes of warm up time she goes back to normal, no more black smoke comes out, and I can't hear that 'fuel noise' anymore. Good luck though.........thr only positive thing I can see of this is that the car doesn't have to warm up for quite as long.



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fly1Oct-25-02 05:32 AM
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#33281, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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What's your base fuel pressure set at? If it's too high, it might contribute to a richer fuel system at idle. Other than that, I'm not sure what else would cause a rich startup?

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RoboTechDSMOct-25-02 03:09 PM
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#33282, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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Mine is set at 50, sorry Alvin, don't mean to hi jack your post.



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SemperboostOct-26-02 01:56 AM
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#33283, "RE: What path does fuel take to the rail?"
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It's coo..I'm gonna find out next weekend. Could it be something to do with the my Vortech FPR? THnaks

Alvin

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BeefGGOct-26-02 04:58 AM
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#33284, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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Maybe try putting in a switch to the fuel pump. Turn off the pump when starting the engine and as soon as it starts flip it back on.
Does that make since?


  

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WIKKIOct-26-02 06:10 PM
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#33285, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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Just a thought.
When your temp sensor goes bad your ECU will go to a default temp setting (something like 70 degrees). thats fine for when you start cold, but if you are warmed up, it is WAY too rich. the car won't start.
It's easy to check. just unplug your sensor and see if it makes a difference. if it doesn't, it's probably the sensor.

Also. If your cooling fan comes on, then this probably won't help. It wont come on at all if the sensor is crapped.

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jamesmanOct-28-02 02:49 AM
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#33286, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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or it may be the most simple thing like your injectors are leaking and not closing all the way.
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SemperboostOct-28-02 12:18 PM
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#33287, "RE: Too much fuel during startup"
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I's not the engine temp sensor cuz my fans kick on. I can't see any leaks under the car or near the injectors during idle, but I smell fuel everytime I boost. I'm still working on it. It does start up fine in the morning but in the afternoon or after a run it takes awhile of cranking to get her back up

Alvin

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Star Stage I turbo kit /Starion I/C w/ 2" chrome piping / GReddy Type-S BOV / Missing Link / Custom APEXi- GReddy 2.5" exhaust / 55mm ARD TB/ Nology wires / APEXi EL mech boost gauge / Autometer A/F gauge / Southland Dual Friction clutch / B&M short shifter / Energy Suspension shifter bushings / 16" GSX Rims / Front/ Rear camberkits / Eibach Prokits / Tokico Blues/ Front Upper, Rear Lower strut bars / Rear GST sway bar
GSX Dual Piston Calipers, X-drilled rotors /


Alvin

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