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alain95i4Sep-05-02 02:07 PM
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#30555, "thinking of a boosted 2.4L under the hood ? read this"


          


the OEM PT cruiser turbo pistons/rods are available now from the dealer, price is ridiculously low and it will not stay at that price for long
Reason beeing: this is not a dealer's part oficially yet
so you're cutting big on intermediate markups

Call your dealers or browse other boards to find how much you could save, ... emoji

A few peoples from ASOG has ordered them, including me, and from Neon boards too

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RE: thinking of a boosted 2.4L under the hood ? read this, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Sep-05-02 04:27 PM, #1
RE: thinking of a boosted 2.4L under the hood ? read this, vmax, Sep-06-02 01:17 AM, #2
2.4L turbo stock internals, TeamJasonESi_T, Sep-06-02 01:24 AM, #3
      RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, Kirby, Sep-06-02 02:13 AM, #4
           RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, vmax, Sep-06-02 07:31 AM, #5
                RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Sep-06-02 08:09 AM, #6
                     RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, Kirby, Sep-06-02 08:29 AM, #7
                          RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, dsmlights, Sep-06-02 08:40 AM, #8
                          RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Sep-06-02 08:43 AM, #9
                               RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, dsmlights, Sep-06-02 08:46 AM, #10
                               RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, Administratoradmin2, Sep-06-02 09:26 AM, #11
                                    RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, dsmlights, Sep-06-02 09:43 AM, #12
                                         RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, turbosrule, Sep-06-02 10:01 AM, #13
                                              RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, alain95i4, Sep-06-02 10:31 AM, #14
                                                   RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, dsmlights, Sep-06-02 12:51 PM, #15
                                                        RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, alain95i4, Sep-06-02 01:10 PM, #16
                                                             RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-06-02 04:01 PM, #17
                                                             RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, ModeratorCorbin, Sep-08-02 01:19 AM, #18
                                                                  RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, RyaN95i4, Sep-08-02 02:52 AM, #19
                                                                       RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, ModeratorCorbin, Sep-08-02 06:58 AM, #20
                                                                            RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, RyaN95i4, Sep-08-02 01:12 PM, #21
                                                                                 RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Sep-08-02 01:34 PM, #22

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#30556, "RE: thinking of a boosted 2.4L under the hood ? read this"
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Still $52 each or have them been updated?

For $52 I MIGHT buy some just because even if I don't use them I can still sell them later emoji

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#30557, "RE: thinking of a boosted 2.4L under the hood ? read this"
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HEY!!!
What is the part number!!! I'm wanna get some asap! Thanks!

  

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TeamJasonESi_TSep-06-02 01:24 AM
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#30558, "2.4L turbo stock internals"
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Part number 4884247AC

http://www.asog.net/bbs2/viewtopic.php?topic=28405&forum=29&1


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KirbySep-06-02 02:13 AM
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#30559, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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are these pistons forged already? how much HP or how much boost will they support? The 2.4l is a good possibility in the future for me. I would like to know what the real deal is on these before I go ahead and buy them.



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#30560, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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I spoke to a guy named Robert in Michigan. He is a parts mgr. and gave me a RIDICULOUS $$$ quote!!!!! They must be forged and he didn't have the specs for the pistons. He did mention that the 'Neon Guys' were using them for increased compression! Man, when he quoted the price, I ordered them on the spot! U can't miss this fellas! 8-)

  

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#30561, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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$168 each for me emoji

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KirbySep-06-02 08:29 AM
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#30562, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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so they went from $52 a piece to $168 each in a couple of hours? are they forged will they hold 25-30 psi of boost?



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dsmlightsSep-06-02 08:40 AM
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#30563, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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yah are they low compression if so so ic an get some asap man 2.4 low compression turbo how good is that emoji heheheeheheheh

DsM Power Soon to be turbo yahhhhhh

  

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#30564, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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Some places are $150 some $50 ish.

I called a place in Tennessee and got $52 each. I don't think they are forged but will handle probably 15psi.

I REALLY want to know if these will work with a 2.0L. I don't want to touch that 2.4L but might if I can not use these.

I want to know if it fits because I can actually afford this and my school rebuilds for free. (tech schools)


Well, what I have learned is that they are around 7.8:1 and also the rods are too long for the 2.0. I "think" you could use the pistons with some other rods but I do not know for sure.

Also, what do our stock rods handle? This wouldn't be too bad to run on stock rods if you could get 10-14 psi.

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#30565, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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well these will work on 2.0 with a lil mods right. If so who can make 2.0 a 2.4 engine and how much are the forged piston 2.4...

DsM Power Soon to be turbo yahhhhhh

  

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#30566, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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they won't work with a 2.0L

They should be a direct drop in for the 2.4L however..

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#30567, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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dopeee, i was making plans alredy. So really our engine can they be made any bigger in L size ? what should one oversize the engine .20 or .40 ???


thanks

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#30568, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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i bet there Mahle pistons...
forged pistons just make noise for the factory to use.


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alain95i4Sep-06-02 10:31 AM
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#30569, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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>i bet there Mahle pistons...
>forged pistons just make noise for the factory to use.

What I know from all the sources combined together
1 they are cast pistons
2 they are cast rods
3 the pistons are Mahle based on the old 2.5 pistons
4 the rods are the old 2.5 rods
5 the pistons are a better variation of the mexican 2.4 tubo pistons with a bigger valve pocket
6 they are low compression
7 the 2.5 pistons and rods are knowned to take severe amount of beating

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dsmlightsSep-06-02 12:51 PM
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#30570, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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so it really does not matter for pep with 2.0 since we could not use them emoji

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#30571, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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>so it really does not matter for pep with 2.0 since we could
>not use them emoji

Considering that for less than $250 if you shop carefully you could get true turbo piston and turbo rods, built to take many psi, for $400 more you have the full gasket set, bearing sets, a used head and a used oil pan
add around $500 for a 2.4 used but good that doesn't need a reboring
and for almost the same price as a howell rebuilt kit you have a complete 2.4 stage III, put that engine under your hood, sell your 2.0 and cash back $400 for it and you're done
total possible cost less than $800 for a Stage III ready with 20% displacement gain, that is also a torque monster

check that for a preview of the potential of the 2.4
http://www.asog.net/bbs2/viewtopic.php?topic=28183&forum=29&11

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#30572, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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You try to press the pin out of a stock iston/rod set. It's not easy to do without breaking the piston.

I say that JE's would still be easier/cheaper to do. With these cars, it isn't so much the stock components, it's the management system the tunes it - bad tuning cracks pistons.

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#30573, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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Alain, thanks for the heads up on this! I ordered my pistons/rods on friday for $37 apiece. Thats just too good of a deal to pass up. I am definitely going the route that you outline (PT piston/rod, junkyard 2.4, sell my 2.0). Probably shave the block/head to bring the compression up to the high 8's. This setup will fit exactly into my goals (quick spool, good torque, good power, low $$$). My goals aren't too lofty, so this works well.


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#30574, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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Corbin, where did you order yours from?

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#30575, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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I ordered from Forum Chrysler in MI. I got my transfer gears from them earlier. Thats the place Bob Kise works at. They've probably raised thier prices by now. I think we just caught some dealers unaware before they had figured out their markup. I'm still expecting them to call me back and say they can't honor that price. If I can actually get away with this, I'll have a great head start on my engine.

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#30576, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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:/ i shoulda talked to someone else...damn... i called and asked for bob, but hes not due back in until tuesday... emoji

i sent bob an email, maybe hell still be able to give me that price... doubt it, but worth a shot

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#30577, "RE: 2.4L turbo stock internals"
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Well, even at $55 its a steal. I search google for "dodge parts dealer" and got a million car dealers. There should be one that hasn't changed price yet. Graceland Auto said $52 each.

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