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420aVengerJul-12-02 06:02 AM
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#26273, "Timing, FP, Missing link???"


          

Ok everything that I know on this subject is by reading posts here so correct me if I'm wrong. So apparently the SAFC messes w/ timing and makes it neccessary to retard it. I also thought I read something that using the missing link instead of my VC-2 will make timing advance more. I have 2 possible paths that I would like to go in. But first I'm going to say that I'm NOT going to be using an AFC. But I need to know if I should use the missing link instead of voltage clamp.

1) Buy an inline pump to go along w/ the Walbro. Run 106psi FP on the 30# injectors at 15 psi.

2) Get inline pump and turn up static pressure to 50psi and run richer at idle and run 98psi on 32# injectors at 16psi.

Now I know that I need to datalog it to be sure but I want to know what to expect. Do you think I will need retard at 15-16psi? What would YOU do?

  

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Moderator992gntJul-12-02 06:22 AM
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#26274, "RE: Timing, FP, Missing link???"
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You have to retard timing between 10 and 15 psi. The afc will not retard timing - it only adjusts fuel mixture. The missing link replaces your vc-1 and has the same function - it keeps your map sensor from seeing boost "voltage" which would in turn make your ecu freak out.

The only way to control timing retard (without buying a Gen VII DFI or full stand-alone) is to use the Crane HI-6 or MSD DIS-2 ignition boxes with the add-on boost refernced timing retard modules. Depending on what compression you are running you need to boost .5 to 1 degree of timing per lb of boost up to 15. After 15, you just run it!


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#26275, "RE: Timing, FP, Missing link???"
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Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify though, I know what the AFC does. I just read that when you use it you will need to retard timing at a lower boost than if you didn't use the AFC. Here's one place I can remember http://www.2gnt.com/dcforum/DCForumID16/4048.html
I also read on the missing link site that since it doesn't modify the MAP signal that it will increase the need for retarding.

  

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#26276, "RE: Timing, FP, Missing link???"
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Missing Link shouldnt make retarding timing more important. all it is, is a check valve basically. i run 12psi daily, with the SAFC and no timing retard and have been fine for close to 2 years. i like the missing link MUCH better than any other fuel cut defencer. it doesnt modify the map signal, it just lets it operate as normal like there isnt any boost.



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