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EclipSeRs99May-04-02 06:55 PM
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#21298, "HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("


          

im runnin an eclipse rs 99, stage 1 star performance turbo....i thought turbo was suppose to be fun, and worth my money, how come im sad

here are some things that are going wrong:

1) when i floor the car, at 5 thousand rpm, and after, it seems like it stops boostin, the car starts shaking, and starts misfiring, i have ngk spark plugs, the 7 range, and i gapped them to .35, that still didnt help


2) when i floor my car, blue smoke comes out of the exhaust, only when i floor it though, not when im normally driving..

3) when my blow off valve goes off, it kinda barks like a puppy before it goes "pssssht", its an HKS standard bov by the way.




So what do you guys think about the misfiring, MSD ignition? will that work better? Do you guys think the blue smoke is due to the misfiring?


  

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RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Fast420A, May-04-02 08:06 PM, #1
RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, RoboTechDSM, May-05-02 03:04 AM, #2
      RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, pn0ymahal, May-05-02 04:52 AM, #3
           RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Manek1, May-05-02 05:49 AM, #4
                RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Kory, May-05-02 08:06 AM, #5
                RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Dave_FL, May-05-02 10:58 AM, #6
                RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, EclipSeRs99, May-05-02 03:23 PM, #7
                     RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, HadesOmega, May-05-02 05:18 PM, #8
                     RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Manek1, May-05-02 05:19 PM, #9
                          RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, The1Bill, May-06-02 05:11 AM, #10
                               RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, EclipSeRs99, May-06-02 12:40 PM, #11
                                    RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Manek1, May-06-02 01:29 PM, #12
                                         RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, EclipSeRs99, May-06-02 03:05 PM, #13
                                              RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, mitsuman, May-06-02 03:26 PM, #14
                                                   RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, Manek1, May-06-02 03:42 PM, #15
                                                        RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, bugdoubt, May-06-02 04:32 PM, #16
                                                             RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =(, daved, May-06-02 06:18 PM, #17

Fast420AMay-04-02 08:06 PM
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#21299, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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RUN A COMPRESSION TEST, SEE IF YOUR ENGINE IS OKAY FIRST.

Blue smoke is oil burning, period. If oil is burning, thats a bad thing and there has to be a reason for it.

http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/comp.html

Follow this compression test walkthru and see what the numbers are at and go from there.



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#21300, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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MAN....I could've sworn me and Fast420A explained it to you in AIM a few weeks back!!!!!



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pn0ymahalMay-05-02 04:52 AM
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#21301, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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dude i told u also what to do in a previous post...blue smoke is oil going wrong somewhere... the misfire could be a incorrect gapping on the plugs... i would bring it down a bit and see what happens...


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Manek1May-05-02 05:49 AM
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#21302, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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first of all don't go WOT until we figure this out.
try to gap your plugs at .30
compression test!

how much boost are you running?

not matter what you are burning oil somewhere.......

97 RS Star III(E) @15psi
JE pistons
Crower Rods
CF dual friction clutch
Apexi RS exhaust
race pipe (no cat)
B&M short shifter
HRC 500cc injectors
Vortech 3:1 FMU
Apexi S-AFC
TurboXS Dual stage MBC
fiberglass hood (with vents over turbo and inta

  

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#21303, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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ur burning oil somewhere son

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#21304, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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When you blow your engine your car will misfire. You'll think its something with the ignition but it very well could be the compression. Do you have any check engine lights? Do a compression test right away and se whats going on with it and then take it from there.

Dave
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EclipSeRs99May-05-02 03:23 PM
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#21305, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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I did a compression test, here are the numbers,



170-160-170-160

is that good?

  

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HadesOmegaMay-05-02 05:18 PM
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#21306, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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yes that's pretty good, well borderline anyway emoji

Try gapping the plugs, looking for exhuast leaks look everywhere on the manifold, test spark plug wires, coil pack, etc... basically all the stuff I did when my car choked on the dyno. RU getting enough fuel?


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Manek1May-05-02 05:19 PM
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#21307, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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has it been like this since you've had the turbo installed? have you done anything to the car recently? compression doesn't look too bad....least it's consistant....well how does your oil level look?

97 RS Star III(E) @15psi
JE pistons
Crower Rods
CF dual friction clutch
Apexi RS exhaust
race pipe (no cat)
B&M short shifter
HRC 500cc injectors
Vortech 3:1 FMU
Apexi S-AFC
TurboXS Dual stage MBC
fiberglass hood (with vents over turbo and inta

  

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The1BillMay-06-02 05:11 AM
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#21308, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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Was this a wet test or a dry test? Might help to do both, because you can start to get an oil leak with slightly reduced compression if the rings are starting to go...
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EclipSeRs99May-06-02 12:40 PM
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#21309, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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Yea guys, its been like this ever since i had the turbo, ive only been turbo'd for a month now...my car drives normal and perfect...but when i floor it, thats when the smoke comes outta the exhaust, the light light light blue smoke...but heres a thing i noticed, when i drive my car without the turbo in it, and i floor it, no smoke at all, not even a little bit, then when i install the turbo back in, and floor it, the smoke comes..i hope this bit of info helps u guys in finding my problem...but thanks for all the replys, you guys are the greatest

  

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Manek1May-06-02 01:29 PM
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#21310, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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while your compression is consistent it's kind of low.......but since it is consistent that means you would have had to of damaged all your piston rings to the same degree (i think that's unlikely).....do you notice any excessive oil consumption or blowby? do you see any oil in you BOV or piping?

97 RS Star III(E) @15psi
JE pistons
Crower Rods
CF dual friction clutch
Apexi RS exhaust
race pipe (no cat)
B&M short shifter
HRC 500cc injectors
Vortech 3:1 FMU
Apexi S-AFC
TurboXS Dual stage MBC
fiberglass hood (with vents over turbo and inta

  

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EclipSeRs99May-06-02 03:05 PM
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#21311, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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i checked my piping, i cant see the oil, but when i rub my finger in it, i can see oil on it...just a little...also, when i rub my finger on my exhaust muffler tip...its black, and i can also feel and see oil on it. still dont know what the hells goin on

  

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mitsumanMay-06-02 03:26 PM
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#21312, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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check your fuel pressure. it could be too high. this happened to me when i didnt adjust my fpr. was running waaay too rich and smoke was cmin out the exh. give it a try and see what happens.

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Turbo:
1. HRC STG 2
2. Blits SS BOV

Exhaust:
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Ride:
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Electronics:
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2. Apexi S-afc(sitting in
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Body:
1. Blitz front end(sitting in
room)

Fun mods:
1. "Nozzel mod"

Wanted:
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Manek1May-06-02 03:42 PM
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#21313, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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try this......go to autoparts store look for this oil additive called "restore". try it, less than a rebuild......

97 RS Star III(E) @15psi
JE pistons
Crower Rods
CF dual friction clutch
Apexi RS exhaust
race pipe (no cat)
B&M short shifter
HRC 500cc injectors
Vortech 3:1 FMU
Apexi S-AFC
TurboXS Dual stage MBC
fiberglass hood (with vents over turbo and inta

  

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bugdoubtMay-06-02 04:32 PM
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#21314, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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I now you first posted this a long time ago but if you have not done so regap your plugs between the .28 and the .30 mark.

this will fix your wot staggering


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#21315, "RE: HEREZ A LIST OF MY PROBLEMS GUYS, PLEASE HELP =("
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Whats the water temp lookin like, normal or a little hot? How often do you have to put oil in the car? Do you ever smell oil burning?

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1990 Turbo Eclipse (race)

  

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