ive asked this before privately but didnt really get a straight answer.. is it a crappy muffler or something? or do people do it for aesthetic purposes? is the muffler straight thru?

JOe

98 Eclipse GS Turbo - SOLD
03 Eclipse GT
05 Suzuki GSXR 600

The pacesetter is a very basic, cheap muffler. It reduces sound using similar methods to an OEM muffler. In other words...not great for flow. It sounds kind of like a dirt-bike (but a little beefier). The inside of the tip is painted yellow. It will eventually start to rust and look crappy. I kept mine for about 9 months before replacing it.


Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

Corbin
'97 GSX dressed like a '95 ESi

if all u want is a decent lookin tip, the psetter muff aint bad after the center is carbond black...

but what corbin said is definately tru... i swapped mines, and so has a buddy of mine w/the Psetter... both for straight thru mufflers

the pfunk muff is offset, not straight thru.. so if u slap on a straight thru muff onto the tubage, it will be cokd off to the dr. side a lil... doesnt look bad at all tho

03 srt-4 13.130@112.47mph (n2o, stock turbo, 10/2003)
now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

i farted on your wiki

Because that muffler sucks.

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on............

A.D.P.
"...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
bring it on...........

Replacing the Pacesetter muffler must be a tradition as old as pacesetter.
A) the yellow paint inside the tip is ugly (but no problem. I removed it pretty easily before installing it on my car. No way in hell was a yellow interiored tip going on my ride).
B) there is nothing performance oriented about the muffler. Its a typical factory replacement type muffler with less sound deadening material. Again not totally a bad thing. If your factory system was a 1/4 inch bigger you probably wouldn't need to replace it.
C)Why pay brand X $500 for a catback when you can have one for half that which performs just as well and looks just as good (and with the muffler style of your choice). A few catbacks are all stainless (borla, thermal, magnecore to name most) but who gives a rats ass, exhaust rust isn't a concern on regularly driven cars.
D) Where else are you gonna get perfectly fitting prefabed mandrel bent 2.5" exhaust piping so easily and cheap. Pacesetter piping+muffler=custom exhaust the thinkin mans way (hence corbin, jason, dave_fl and myself chose to do it (-: )

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Ditoh

How much of a performance gain would there be by swapping mufflers to a 2.5 inch flow through(side in/side out)? I know the exhaust slows down the cooler it gets and the downpipe/mid section are most important as far as sizing goes. I noticed the pacesetter muffler inlet goes into the muffler chamber and the exit has a resonated 2.5 inch tube that goes straight in. Not a flow through, but not restrictive IMHO.

I will probably swap the muffler, but love the stealth look of the pacesetter. I need every pony I can get.

97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

I agree with the stealthness of the pacesetter muffler. But seein how everyone chop their's off and replace with a aftermarket, I think I'll do the same too.

Anyone know if a good dual outlet tipped muffler. I was checkin gout magnaflow, but no pictures..

-K-

I personally thought the pacesetter muff was ugly as all hell and wanted to get rid of it as soon as possible. I love my exhaust now, my only prob with it is the new muff doesnt stick out as far as I would like. The sound is amazing though and I wouldnt trade it for another

Toney
'97 RS 5 Speed (totaled)
15.4606@88.42 Mph
96 Toyota Celica GT
88 Toyota Supra NA-T (w/ sports package)
Got Boost?? Hell yeah I-6 turbo powah baby!