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eludeFeb-11-02 12:24 PM
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#15491, "420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"


          

hey guyz.. got a quick question.. my cousin got a 1997 eclipse spyder gs-t.. and i got a 99 eclipse rs... i was pissed he got a turbo...but hes cool...but anyways.. he is willing to let me swap.. and i was wondering if it would be possible to engine swap his 4G63 and 420A?? how hard would it be?? how long?? and how much?? what would i need and so on... we both got Manual trannies so i just need some advice, if there is like help out there.. thanks..

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No..., TeamJasonESi_T, Feb-11-02 12:34 PM, #1
RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, TeamAvenger, Feb-11-02 01:03 PM, #2
RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, TeamDeanoD, Feb-11-02 01:11 PM, #3
RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, SHOGUN98RS, Feb-11-02 04:24 PM, #4
      RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, ModeratoreclipzGST, Feb-11-02 04:39 PM, #5
           RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Feb-11-02 05:11 PM, #6
                RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, Thunderous_Talon, Feb-11-02 05:18 PM, #7
                     RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, Fast420A, Feb-11-02 05:25 PM, #8
                          RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Feb-11-02 05:45 PM, #9
                               RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, TeamJeff_99gs, Feb-11-02 06:40 PM, #10
                                    RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, soldier101, Feb-12-02 12:23 AM, #11
                                    RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, Kiku, Feb-12-02 04:05 AM, #12
                                    RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, TeamJasonESi_T, Feb-12-02 06:07 AM, #13
                                         RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?, HadesOmega, Feb-13-02 05:01 AM, #14

TeamJasonESi_TFeb-11-02 12:34 PM
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#15492, "No..."
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You can't do it. It's too hard and requires too much money. Everything under the hood is totally differemnt including the trannies. For a fraction of the cost, you can get a turbo kit for your 420a.

http://evulflea.extreme420a.com/2gnt/shock_intro.html

However, if it makes you feel better, you can read the alternative answers for fantasy time: emoji
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and i was wondering if it would be
>possible to engine swap his 4G63 and 420A??


Oh, it's a super easy swap! It's not only possible, we do it here ALL THE TIME! emoji

how hard would
>it be??

Not hard at all. It usually only takes about 15 minutes. You just need to switch out the valve covers and put a turbo on. That's all!

how long??

Again, about 15 minutes.

and how much??

About $50. $10 for the valve cover and maybe $40 more for the used turbo.

what would i need and so
>on... we both got Manual trannies so i just need some
>advice, if there is like help out there.. thanks..

No problem man. That's all you need, a turbo and a valve cover! emoji

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TeamAvengerFeb-11-02 01:03 PM
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#15493, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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Please look here ....

http://www.2gnt.com/dcforum/DCForumID25/4142.html

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TeamDeanoDFeb-11-02 01:11 PM
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#15494, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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It can be done and it is NOT cheap. Take the advice above. We are doing a 420A auto swap to a 2G 4G63 manual right now. The customers bill will be $7500-$8000. The motor is a stock rebuilt, tranny will have 30K and we are using a big 16G. Everything else is stock.

Things to consider: even though you are a manual trans

Complete K frame swap, Rt/Lt engine mount swaps(cut and weld), redo of fuel lines(fairly easy), everything in engine bay swapped(pain in the ass) including radiator, etc. etc.

I do not recommend this unless you have access to used parts like we do locally. If this was a dedicated race car, then this might be an option that is feasible. I know you must be just thinking out loud, but this is a bad route to go IMHO.


97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

  

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SHOGUN98RSFeb-11-02 04:24 PM
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#15495, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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...this shits outta hand. come' on


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ModeratoreclipzGSTFeb-11-02 04:39 PM
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#15496, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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Why don't you just trade cars? Less work, noone gets dirty and you end up with the same result.

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ModeratorEvuLFleAFeb-11-02 05:11 PM
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#15497, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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*edited





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95 GS

  

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Thunderous_TalonFeb-11-02 05:18 PM
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#15498, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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no offense but for real. but bro, are you fucking illiterate? damn this question has been asked a billion fucking times. SEARCH THE ARCHIVES

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Fast420AFeb-11-02 05:25 PM
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#15499, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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You would need a complete GST for all the parts to make it work, Tranny, Engine, ECU, wiring harnesses, motor mounts, downpipe, etc etc etc. . . You may as well just buy a GST and swap your RS sticker on to it.



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#15500, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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http://www.2gnt.com/www/ntfaq.htm#gstengine

Q: Can I install a GS-T engine in my NT?
A: Yes, but it is an extremely difficult and very expensive operation. It would be necessary to change the motor mounts, install a GS-T tranny, and finally change the whole wiring harness and ECU. It would be better to sell the car and just buy a GS-T. Here is a breakdown of the components and approximate costs:
1. 4G63 turbo engine (stock) $1500
2. transmission (stock GS-T FWD) $500
3. wiring harness for engine $300
4. 4G63 ECU (stock) $300
5. shift linkage $200
6. custom engine mounts $200
7. chassis cross member $100
8. complete exhaust $200
9. intercooler, turbo, related parts $500
10. boost gauge/fuel filter, etc $300
11. Installation $1500
This totals $5600, and doesn't include unforeseen obstacles in the installation. For about $2000, you should be able to get over 100 hp out of the stock 420A motor with porting, valvetrain and electronics modifications.

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#15501, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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was that Sarcasm from Jason? wow emoji

  

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#15502, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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just turbo your 420A, stronger engine, last longer, already in your car so you'll save a ton of cash

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#15503, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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"You need a turbo like 4g63 needs a better engine design" emoji

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#15504, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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Sure was Jeff. Sometimes I let my "real" personality leak on to the board. emoji

(hey, I answered his question seriously before I went into sarcasm mode emoji )

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#15505, "RE: 420A-4G63 Engine Swap Question?"
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dude do people even go to the main website anymore? Has NE1 seen this yet?

http://www.2gnt.com/www/ntfaq.htm


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