#13674, "internal setup for turbo!!!!!(a little long)"
Ok Guys i need some opinions.... I was thinking about doing my internals first before adding the turbo. I want to be able to boost when i add the turbo without worring about blowing a rod or anything. I know howell has the rebuild kit. But I was wondering what would be the max. stage you could go up to with the eagle rods. i heard someone saying they were only good for upto 350hp. now is that at the wheels or at the crank. Would I be better off getting crowler rods. And another question is what ratio of piston would be the best to get. I remember a while back people were arguing about lower 8:6.1 to 9 and 10 compressions. I need to know which ones are the better ones to go with. Also has anyone heard about the crane cams for out car. should i just send the cores I have out to get regrinded for turbo application. I'm looking at doing some serious work to my car in the next few months. I want everything to be done before summertime. At least stage 3. any info you guys can give me i appreciate. TIA
ps sorry if this was too long or repeated question but i need to get the info..
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#13676, "RE: internal setup for turbo!!!!!(a little long)" In response to Reply # 1
i know everyone has commented on your wheels already but.....dude does your car have a hover mode like in Back to the Future
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#13678, "RE: internal setup for turbo!!!!!(a little long)" In response to Reply # 3
The 10.6 is higher than our stock compression so spoolup will be faster. Gary Howell was talking about the 12.5:1 compression even being safe enough for boost use on pump gas around 5 lbs intercooled :o Then once you go to the track dump in 100+ octane and kill everything at the track! }>
As far as rods go, if you are planning on pushing 350 HP or more then get Crower Rods. But even though people say 350 is the limit for Eagle rods I have heard some damn good things about them, and how they can hold much more than they say but I wouldn't want to be the test mule.
Perf: KYB AGX Struts Neuspeed Sport Springs 5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L) Sprint Front Camber Kit $15 Rear Camber Kit Corbin's A/F Gauge MSD DIS-2 Ignition System Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have) Ported Intake Manifold Ported Throttle Body Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler Empty Catalytic Convertor Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts Hurricane_GS Short Shifter Symborsky Shift Kit Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular 225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires
Audio: Alpine CD Head Unit Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears 3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono
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#13679, "RE: internal setup for turbo!!!!!(a little long)" In response to Reply # 4
my question would be why is everyone always suggesting 8:6.1 for internals and not the higher compression. i remember stan was high compression what was his ratio? TIA
#13680, "low compression" In response to Reply # 5
Notwithstanding, Gary Howell's recent dialogue regarding boosting capabilities with high compression, a read of Maximum Boost or any other article relating to boosting, will recommend lower compression for on-the-street boosting.
The main idea to get across here is that a lower compression engine will give you a safer platform with which to boost your engine on, lessening the risks of detonation and other internal damage. If you could be assured of always having high octane race fuel at your disposal, there wouldn't even be this issue. You could heighten your CR to your heart's content. But here in the US, we are stricken with the occasional bad tank of gas, even with 93 octane. Boosting ~15 psi of boost on a higher compression engine with poor street gas might be a dangerous game that I know my pocketbook wouldn't want to pay.
_____________________________________ Jason ESi-T
04' BMW 325Ci 91' Nissan 240SX 98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)
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