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ajJan-15-02 06:17 PM
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#13547, "Woohoo 15PSI! but..."


          

Well,finally runni'n 15 PSI.Sure makes a hell of a lot o' difference.Best thing is,Not a cloud o' black smoke comi'n out the back.No burnt bumper here.Stop and go driving's the same.Quick response,none of that rich mixture foul runs.Except,when I punch it,boost climbs strong to 5 PSI,sorta looses power around 5-10 PSI(while it's climbing)then kicks me back in my seat on the rise from 10-15PSI.What the hell?!?!Anyone got any clues?Power just sorta "dips" around 10-15 PSI.Anyone?

  

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RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., vegasdsmr, Jan-15-02 06:57 PM, #1
RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Fast420A, Jan-15-02 07:13 PM, #2
      RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., TeamMuRiX, Jan-15-02 10:11 PM, #3
           RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Kiku, Jan-16-02 05:11 AM, #4
                RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Kory, Jan-16-02 07:33 AM, #5
RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., aj, Jan-16-02 10:39 AM, #6
RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Super20G, Jan-16-02 12:47 PM, #7
RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., aj, Jan-16-02 04:06 PM, #8
RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Kiku, Jan-17-02 12:14 PM, #9
      RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., esi420, Jan-17-02 07:36 PM, #10
           RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., TurboTalon0, Jan-19-02 11:13 AM, #11
                RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., esi420, Jan-20-02 10:44 AM, #12
                     RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., Avenger EST, Jan-20-02 01:06 PM, #13
                          RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..., aj, Jan-20-02 02:48 PM, #14

vegasdsmrJan-15-02 06:57 PM
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#13548, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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maybe a fuel pressure problem, or you are running lean due to not enough fuel.. i dont know much, but thats an idea

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Fast420AJan-15-02 07:13 PM
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#13549, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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Sounds like the computer is pulling timing for some reason.
That could be a bad thing.


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#13550, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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Sounds like you are hitting the flat spot transition created by maxing out the voltage on your map sensor. Make sure you have a good connection with your fcd.

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KikuJan-16-02 05:11 AM
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#13551, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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What are you running as far as fuel system?

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#13552, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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got any times yet?


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ajJan-16-02 10:39 AM
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#13553, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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lemme' see,

I'm reluctant to assume it's a fuel problem cause a/f reads rich/stoich and egt's are low(1200's at the most,probe's on the down pipe though).Hmmmm....I'll check the FCD though...I'm runni'n walbro,4:1 disk,safc and RC 440's.

I just realized my BOV was almost all the way out so I'm prayi'n it was leaking on high boost.Hope that was it.If it was fuel any suggestions besides the FCD?

  

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Super20GJan-16-02 12:47 PM
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#13554, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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I was gonna say, 1200 at the most at 15psi? I make 1550 at 15psi(but i'm super duper rich and have afterburn in the manny... you should really put that egt in the manifold on the 4th runner...

  

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ajJan-16-02 04:06 PM
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#13555, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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Darn it it wasn't the BOV.If it was some type of fuel cut,why would it kick me back in my seat as soon as I hit 10PSI,then viloently rises to 15PSI?And oh,the rise from 5-10...is really slow....hhhmmm...

  

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#13556, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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its GOT to be your fuel curve. The slooow gain between 5-10 and BOOM hits you a 15psi is your map sensor not putting out the voltage it SHOULD at that boost level. I have this problem right now, and i KNOW i have enough fuel (stage 2 @ 7psi) but i measured my FCD/MAP voltage and man it rises steadly then around 5psi it CLAMPS at 2.X volts then a bit longer right when the boost KICKS, the voltage goes up to the normal 4.X voltage range. I associate this with the hrc FCD soft clamping. I'm waiting for the VC-2 to arrive at my door for me to prove my theory.


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esi420Jan-17-02 07:36 PM
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#13557, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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Sorry, this is a little off topic. Do you have to have a FMIC to run 15 psi with an HRC stage II?

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#13558, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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I dont think you can run 15psi on a stage II, FMIC or not. You need Forged Internals, larger injectors, some fuel managemet, and increased ignition, to run that high a boost. I think the highest you can run is 9psi on the stage II, unless you have the aforementioned supporting units. PEace...JIM

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esi420Jan-20-02 10:44 AM
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#13559, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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I have forged rods and pistons. I am getting a better fuel system. My question was can you run 15psi with the sidemount in the HRC kit or do you need to have a FMIC?

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#13560, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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you can run 15 psi on teh side mount just fine

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ajJan-20-02 02:48 PM
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#13561, "RE: Woohoo 15PSI! but..."
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ooppsss...fixed it.I was lean(although my gauges seem to tell me otherwise) around the 3500-5000 rpm setting I had on the afc.runs like a dream now.

  

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