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97rs-turboAug-14-08 02:44 PM
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Hey guys i have a 420a turbo and im having some problems. When it goes into boost the gauge will read 6psi wich is where my wastegate spring is set to open but the car does not accelerate. I have no idea whats wrong please help. Thanks Tyler

  

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RE: help, joeck76, Aug-14-08 03:22 PM, #1
RE: help, 96TurboGS, Aug-14-08 03:44 PM, #2
      RE: help, 97rs-turbo, Aug-14-08 05:29 PM, #3
           RE: help, RoninEclipse2G, Aug-15-08 05:48 AM, #4
                RE: help, justins71, Aug-16-08 04:08 AM, #5
                     RE: help, 97rs-turbo, Aug-16-08 05:20 PM, #6
                          RE: help, joeck76, Aug-18-08 02:29 PM, #7
                               RE: help, spooled420, Aug-18-08 04:25 PM, #8
                                    RE: help, 97rs-turbo, Aug-20-08 09:10 AM, #9
                                         RE: help, justins71, Aug-21-08 01:32 PM, #10
                                              RE: help, 97rs-turbo, Aug-21-08 01:58 PM, #11
                                                   RE: help, boostedclipse, Sep-07-08 12:42 PM, #12

joeck76Aug-14-08 03:22 PM
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#104071, "RE: help"
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how the hell are you hitting 6 pounds of boost without acceleration? Either
a)you are accelerating and you just don't know it

or

b)you need to take your car out of neutral but i doubt you are able to build 6 lbs of boost in neutral.

Try this out next time you hit 6psi jump out of the car really fast. If you get all banged up than you were definitely accelerating if not go to option b


hope this helps if not you need to be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more specific as to what your problem is

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96TurboGSAug-14-08 03:44 PM
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#104075, "RE: help"
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Originally posted by joeck76
how the hell are you hitting 6 pounds of boost without acceleration? Either a)you are accelerating and you just don't know it or b)you need to take your car out of neutral but i doubt you are able to build 6 lbs of boost in neutral. Try this out next time you hit 6psi jump out of the car really fast. If you get all banged up than you were definitely accelerating if not go to option b hope this helps if not you need to be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more specific as to what your problem is


lol, seriously, Could we also get an idea of your set up? fcd, missing link, fmu, sfmu ect. If you have an EGT or an wideband,air/fuel gauge what does it read when you go into boost? I would be worried if my gauge hit 6 pounds and it didn't go anywhere, are you sure its not -6hg?

-Rafiel

  

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97rs-turboAug-14-08 05:29 PM
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#104076, "RE: help"
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ok seriously... It does accelerate but not what it should be for 6psi is what im saying, no need to be a dick about it. My set up is a 50 trim, fmu, fuel cut defender, warbrol 255. I dont have a egt or wideband.

  

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RoninEclipse2GAug-15-08 05:48 AM
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#104081, "RE: help"
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so what you're saying is that the car is not pulling as hard as you think is should be.

get it tuned and Dynoed. I bet it's about right and your butt dyno is mis-calibrated

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justins71Aug-16-08 04:08 AM
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#104088, "RE: help"
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6 psi on a 2.0l is not a whole heck of a lot, and if you're lookin for a tire-peelin torque while doin 60mph it won't come close. if it's just loadin up, then check your plugs and maybe your exhaust, it may be restricted. Other than that it's kinda hard to tell w/o a WB. Where is your boost referenced? If it's early in the sytem (off the turbo) you may have a serious leak as suggested. You could be barely boosting at the manifold.

/>

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JE 8.8:1 dish w/ Hastings Rings
Eagle Rods w/ ARP bolts
ARP Head studs
Mild port/polish head
3" custom DP/cat section, 3" PIT catback
dual MBC - 12 psi / 20psi

  

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97rs-turboAug-16-08 05:20 PM
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#104092, "RE: help"
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Originally posted by justins71
6 psi on a 2.0l is not a whole heck of a lot, and if you're lookin for a tire-peelin torque while doin 60mph it won't come close. if it's just loadin up, then check your plugs and maybe your exhaust, it may be restricted. Other than that it's kinda hard to tell w/o a WB. Where is your boost referenced? If it's early in the sytem (off the turbo) you may have a serious leak as suggested. You could be barely boosting at the manifold.


Yeah i know its not going to be a whole lot of power but its deffinetely not running the way it should. Im going to get new plugs tommorow because i dont know when they were changed last. The exhaust is not restricted because im running open down pipe as of right now. Also i just ordered a wideband yesterday and it should be here tuesday so we shall see what my afr are. Thanks for the help.

  

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joeck76Aug-18-08 02:29 PM
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#104105, "RE: help"
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you can also try running your boost gauge to the manifold if you dont already have it set up that way. atleast then you will know if you are in fact hitting 6psi. Check all of your cupplers and makes sure you dont have a leak anywhere. check your intercooler too if you have one make sure it didnt get damaged and is leaking.

98 RS: Mods: Custom Stage 2 Turbo kit , 55mm throttle body, gutted cat, evo cat back exhaust, p/p intake manifold,p/p Head, af-x underdrive pulley, B&M short throw shifter,Built bottom end Je pistons eagle rods 8.8:1 compression.





Status:Up and running again! nice new paint

Custom stage 2 hahn turbo kit
Hahn Super 16g turbo (ceramic coated)
Hahn manifold (ceramic coated)
Hahn Downpipe assembly
Hahn intercooler piping smic
Hahn oil line kit
Type s bov
2G Gsx smic
walbro 255 fuel pump
Synapse missing link
Vortech s-fmu
NGK Bkr7e11 Plugs
A-pillar w/boost, a/f, oil pressure gauges


New Addition: 2007 Eclipse GT 6 speed

  

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spooled420Aug-18-08 04:25 PM
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#104106, "RE: help"
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yea probably just a simple boost leak,btw you didnt use rubber couplers did you?note that you can still read 6 psi with a boost leak and may not think you have one because still reading 6 psi unles its a ssever leak wich wont be hard to locate

  

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97rs-turboAug-20-08 09:10 AM
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#104113, "RE: help"
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Originally posted by spooled420
yea probably just a simple boost leak,btw you didnt use rubber couplers did you?note that you can still read 6 psi with a boost leak and may not think you have one because still reading 6 psi unles its a ssever leak wich wont be hard to locate


no i have brand new silicone couplers and brand new intercooler. The boost gauge is hooked into the manifold as well.

  

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justins71Aug-21-08 01:32 PM
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#104120, "RE: help"
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what sort of FMU setup are you runnin?

/>

'95 GS w/ t3/t4b
FMIC, diy piping & RFL BOV
MS2-Extra Fuel&Spark
50 lb/hr Holley injectors w/ 1:1 RRFPR
JE 8.8:1 dish w/ Hastings Rings
Eagle Rods w/ ARP bolts
ARP Head studs
Mild port/polish head
3" custom DP/cat section, 3" PIT catback
dual MBC - 12 psi / 20psi

  

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97rs-turboAug-21-08 01:58 PM
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#104121, "RE: help"
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Originally posted by justins71
what sort of FMU setup are you runnin?


Its a vortec fmu, thats all i know.

  

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boostedclipseSep-07-08 12:42 PM
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#104235, "RE: help"
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see if your fcd is set up correctly.... u might need to switch to a ML cause the only thing i can think of is your getting a fuel cut..

  

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