Well unfortunately, after all this time and struggeling, the secret project has been sold approx 5 weeks ago to a local with a Talon. The secret pretty much was a badass 2.4L motor that I was building. Unfortunately, since have a 3 month year old son, the money just wasnt there to finish it, and I still had alot to do. The kid comes first now over the toy. BUT, I have made some new reinforcements to my 2.0L and I am still going for the 400whp marker and with some tuning, I am going to get as much as I can. Here is what was added since last years set.

Tubular manifold, 40mm Tial wastegate, New Precision SC61 Turbo which is the same as a GT35, MSnS, 720cc injectors, new 2.75" intercooler piping, new FMIC, Heavily ported and polished head, standard SS valves, Crower 2 cams, Crower springs, Crower retainers, new JE rings, new Clevitte main and rod bearings, Aeromotive FPR, SPEC stage 5 clutch, DSS Stage 5 axles, Prothane engine mounts, Prothane susp busings and off the top of my head, I think thats it. I made the engine bay look cleaner now too with a new paint job, a custom valve cover and venom intake manifold, Fluidyne radiator, 2 pusher fans mounted in the front.

I would also like to add that in about 2 weeks, Mark Peachy aka quicksilver and myself will be adding to the WIKI with how we made my manifold. I pretty much designed it and tacked it up and Mark threw down some KILLER ASS Tig welding skills on this bitch. It is flawless, hands down and a HUGE thanks to Mark. The manifold did flex a little bit during shipping to Mark and the turbo sits about 3-5mm from the radiator, lol. It should be okay though since the engine mounts are pretty damn stiff now.

All I have to finish now is to mock up a downpipe and dump tube for the wastegate, run my oil line for the turbo, oil drain to pan, turbo to i/c piping and then its start up time. I am also working on a hard pipe in replacement for the radiator hose...

I am sure I will need some help with getting it going with the MSnS since I am a newbie with it, so if someone wants to shoot me your phone # through a PM, that would be awesome.

So anyway, here are a few pics of some unfinished business. Enjoy.

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-MIKE-

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Very clean engine bay, i like your setup. I messed up my SC61, so i had to get rid of it. And the S covers for the SC61 are being redesigned, so i bought a t3/t4 60-1, i will be installing it friday. After seeing you car, i wish i still had my SC6169. Good luck and keep up the bad ass work.

99 RS-T
"New bottom end(8.6:1 w/long rods)"
Turbonetics 60-1/Portfueler/etc!!!!!

Very nice looking Mike, few questions about your setup:

1. What do you have going on with the PCV valve? Is it just re-routed to a vacuum port on the back of the intake manifold or running something special? Can't really tell from the pics.

2. How come you didn't route the waste gate flange the other way so you could/can re-route back into the exhaust and not dump right on the oil housing of the turbo?

3. How's the fitment of that exhaust mani? It clear the hood alright and everything?

Shame about the 2.4L engine, but family comes before hobby always.

Mike D
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Your setup looks amazing in there! Good luck with everything. And if you don't mind me asking, how does the Precision turbo compare to Garrett price wise?

Chris
95 Talon Esi Turbo

I contributed to the Wiki!
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Full_Talon_to_Eclipse_Conversion

OMG... Exelent...

Where did you get the Engine side mounts???
Are they Energy Suspention Inserts of the Whole Mount???

Where can I get them? Part# if you have it. or just point me in the right direction...

The dump tube is going to be routed back into the downpipe. I have plenty of clearence to do this no problem.

I still have a PCV valve on there, its just routed to the back of the manifold.

Thanks for the comments.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

mmmmm, that looks delicious

I contributed to the Wiki!
EVO IX - just a really expensive boost gauge and a K&N air filter
96 Eclipse RS -awaiting registration and inspection
95 Eclipse GS - parts car
Mods/Profile - http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=cs82685

Originally posted by cs82685
mmmmm, that looks delicious

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

The manifold looks pretty slick. Backpurged? Weight? I'd still keep an eye on that thing. Looks beefy.

If you've got the PT SC61 why call it a GT35 on the valve cover? While it might be "practically" the same, is it truly a Garrrett Ballistics Concepts GT cartridge in the CHRA? I was under the impression that the GT cartridge was what made the GT-series turbos. One wouldn't call a T-28 a "Disco Potato," after all...

Looks clean. Glad to see you didn't make it wider.

I like the detail on the valve cover. Manifold is nice, cheater cut kinda hurts the craftsmanship but its nice.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

Sweet. I figured it was a vaccum box of some sort. I've just never seen anything like it til now. Everyone's custom built setups on here are just amazing. I really like the approach some of you guys (and girls) take to getting stuff done. It gives me alot of inspiration (and hope) for the rs.

Do you have the bolts holding the turbo on the manifold tapped right into the flange?

Mike D
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I back purged the entire manifold, flanges and all. I used 309 filler rod on the flanges because they where made of mild steel and the rest was done with T-304. Shipping weight on the mani was 42 lbs but I packed the thing in a heavy 3/4 inch wooden crate to prevent any dammage and I figure it don't weigh any more than 25 lbs, not much compared to some of the GT40 series mani's you see on the evo's. And I have to say, that looks great! I'll have that disk on the way to you soon, I was in an accident last weekend and didnt get to spend to much time on it.

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

If I were you I'd build some sort of tripod-like support system from the front of the block to a little platform for the turbo to sit on so that the weight of it doesn't wear out the manifold faster. If you wanted to get fancy you could get a small precision spring from mcmaster too and rig it up so its adjustable in the amount of support it provides. However you do not want to brace the manifold to itself in any way, or make a support that allows for no movement of the expanding stainless and binds it all up by holding the turbo too rigidly.

Also, instead of going with some insulation over the top rad hose i'd go with something like this (along with the insulation):

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D390124&N=700+115&autoview=sku

The main hose part is all stainless, not rubber with braids. Be-Cool also makes something like it.

How close did that compressor end up to the starter? (1 inch, 2 inches, etc.) And how many inches is the first straight section coming out of the port on the 1st and 4th runners?

Nice job overall - although i'd have to agree with the comment above, not a big fan of the cheater cuts on the 2nd and 3rd runners. But it'll work.

Me likey!!! I hope mine ends up looking like that when im done!
i was thinking about getting everything inside the engine bay black if i can, i know it is not a smart idea, but still i think its clean, a white car with black interior!!!

you are running 2.75 IC piping right? with what intercoooler? thats where im stuck, i dont know which intercooler to buy! im thinking hahn but it is kinda expensive! but i dont mind it!

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

badass!!!!

i helped build a sc61 aem ems powered srt that's local..

built motor, wild cams, etc..

at 22psi, it was hitting 500whp on the dyno w/out even touching the cam gears.....

good luck w/it..

03 srt-4 13.130@112.47mph (n2o, stock turbo, 10/2003)
now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

i farted on your wiki

nice to see that vacuum box worked well for ya! very nice set up mike!

=Dan=



98rs eclipse- Mods: BC2, C/F hood, custom turbo system consisting of a PTE SC50, turbosmart ultra gate (10psi), star FMIC and pipes, SFMU, HKS SSQV, 3" V-BAND downpipe from ATP, Zeitronix Wideband LCD displaying boost, egt and 02. *** SOLD and will be missed***

2006 gsxr 750- jardine gp1 exhaust, -1,+2 stealth sprockets, DID 525 chain, JD products pro TRE. 0-60 in a sneeze. ran a 10.8 avg 1/4 mile my first time to the track on street tires, stock swingarm and unstrapped.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

roffle waffles...

I love reading detailed technical explanations of shiznit

-Xavier-
95 Eclipse RS-T...lost in the frozen tundra

Originally posted by XMasta19
roffle waffles... I love reading detailed technical explanations of shiznit

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

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99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

just FYI....

you dont really want to see blue when welding, this means its not hot enough and/or you didnt post flow long enough. Gold is good, but ideally you want a shiny silver.

304L is OK, but for longevity 316 and 321 are the shit. Im a little psycho with inconel and Ti now though. Welding Inconel is odd.

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

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"Don't fear the weapon, fear the soul of the warrior using it."
"My CEL only goes off when i remove my battery."

Best sum up of working on a 2GNT
DR1665- "#5. Spike that motherfucker on the garage floor and grab a beer. You deserve it."


Ahhhh Priceless . . .
eclipse982nrRST "its actually lightish red"
RoninEclipse2G "yeah, they already have a color for that... it's called PINK"

I know this is long but...

I welded the pipe at 130 amps in one pass, the flange was done around 175. I used a 3/32 diameter 2% thoriated tungsten, #6 cup with no lens, and a 1/16 filler. I also walk the cup around the pipe. Takes practice to do but I been burnin pipe for about 10 years. All of it has been food grade so quality is a must. I'll see if I can get some video of myself walkin the cup around some pipe and leave a link for the guys that don't know what this means. And personally I think a purged pipe weld should be kinda dark, not burnt black but almost a brown color. Most of the stuff I do now has to deal with brine mixtures and acid wash's and is costantly in a rather horrid enviroment so the weld must be at it's absolute best quality and material degridation is absolutely not allowed. Yes silver is ideal, especially with Ti where any color means you have damaged the base metal, but it's just below blue in the austenitic stainless steels' color spectrum when heated. I don't want to rip on any one's welding abilitys either, each person has they're own methods and they're own oppinons of whats right and wrong. I welded this up for mike to the best of my abilities and used every bit of knowledge I had on the subject. The ram-horn style manifold is nothing new to me either, they seem to produce the best results compared to anything else you can dream up. I've built a number of them and none have cracked yet, even with a GT45 hangin off of a B18A2 with no bracing. As for everybody that has joined in on this lil debate on the subject I'm glad this has kinda led in this direction. All the stuff thats been brought up so far isn't exactly available for the regular backyard mechanic, hopefully this all gives someone else some crazy ideas and they try building they're own manifold, cuz the more that do the more we can learn about pushin this motor to the limit and maybe some day 600 or 700hp at the wheels wont seem so far fetched of an idea.

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

Goodnight sweetheart...yes its time to go...bum bum bum bum bum...good night sweetheart yes I am one little a$$hole......bum bum bum bum....

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by quicksilver99

Originally posted by turbo8u edit: and oh I dont think 6-700rwhp is far fetched at all.

I really don't either, there's plenty of 1.8 L hondas runnin around makin that or more so why cant we?

you missed it 6-700 R whp

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by quicksilver99

Originally posted by turbo8u edit: and oh I dont think 6-700rwhp is far fetched at all.

I really don't either, there's plenty of 1.8 L hondas runnin around makin that or more so why cant we?

you missed it 6-700 R whp

Cuz Josh has the Viper Talon, he might make it And josh, I see alot of people that use "pipe" to make manifolds. Its the same as the all the fittings, sch10 304ss.

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by quicksilver99

Originally posted by turbo8u edit: and oh I dont think 6-700rwhp is far fetched at all.

I really don't either, there's plenty of 1.8 L hondas runnin around makin that or more so why cant we?

you missed it 6-700 R whp

Cuz Josh has the Viper Talon, he might make it And josh, I see alot of people that use "pipe" to make manifolds. Its the same as the all the fittings, sch10 304ss.

pipe is different than tube homie. also, 304SS and 304L are different as well. I know a lot of people use pipe (IE weld els) to make manifolds, but look at an F1 car...do they use pipe? lol

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...

Soooooo... you get a downpipe and wastegate dump tube made yet Mike?

Mike D
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-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

well even "seamless" tubing still has a seam...

im talking RWD with a 420a motor and 6 speed trans

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

2 sets of injectors is better than 1 =)

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96 Black ESi
91 Red TSI AWD (RIP)
02 WRX


"turnin wrenches for nine hours in the pouring rain, just to get the beast up and running again"

Aerospace Certified TIG welder for Precision Castparts in Portland, OR.

JoshSpair.com

wait... RWD 420A?

Creative thinking? Ingenuity? Hell, It's just an obsession!



99 Eclipse GS turbo: MSpowered, everything custom built, 223.8 HP-199.8 TQ @8psi through auto-tranny. The first time around...