#28332, "A little help: 2nd Attempt at "Re-doing Headliner""
ok guys, some of you may remember a while back when I destroyed my headliner trying to add vinyl to it. I just ordered another headliner ($200 bucks from SATAN!) and im gonna try again...
I really dont wanna ruin this headliner again, so to those who have done this please give me some advice! ive seen the write up and that helped alot!
but heres my question, the headliner (as stock) has a couple layers. a very very thin carpet like material.. is that ALL i remove first?? or should i try gluing the vinyl to the carpet??? also the vinyl I have is kinda thick and tough, but it looks so nice and matches the other vinyl in the car, did you use really flimsy vinyl???
tia
-johnny
"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Normal speeders will panic and immidiately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses content in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you, he will follow..."
"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Normal speeders will panic and immidiately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses co
#28333, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 0
***EDIT***** My diagram doesnt look right when i post it....sorry.
well im the one who has the write-up on the mods page. When i tped mine off, i tore off both layers.... The carpet and the syrofoam backing. What you need to do is start from one end and just pull up on it. Then move over a couple of inches and start pulling it up there so that the carpet is pulled off as high as it is on the end. Keep moving over a little till the carpet is all pulled off the one end. like the pic below.
---------- l l
l l <------- headliner
l l ----------
---------- l l l l l l l l l l ********** l l ----------
See where the stars are going acroos it. Pull off along a full horizontal line like that. Because if you try to just start from one corner and just keep pulling from that one spot, chances are the actual cardboard of the headliner might crack because it is pretty flmisy.
Im not sure if this made any sense...its hard to explan. Tell me if you understand.
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#28334, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 1
i think i get you. so you took off the thin carpet and the layer under?? after you removed those layers... was the headliner still stiff?? last time i took 1 layer off too many i think because the headliner was as flimsey as paper when i was working on it. even after glueing the vinyl on it was so flimsey i couldnt get it to stay up without falling.
im waiting for the headliner, i ordered it but its not here yet. i think when i get it ill post some pictures of the headliner, if you dont mind maybe show me then what you mean.
-johnny
"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Normal speeders will panic and immidiately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses content in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you, he will follow..."
"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Normal speeders will panic and immidiately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses co
#28335, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 2
yah, it is extremely flimsy. Thats why when u tear off the cloth and the styrofoam you have to tear it off horizontally across the whole the headliner. because if you just grab from one corner and continue to pull the cloth off only from that first spot, chances are the carboard might get a major bend.
So yes it is flimsy. When you say you couldent even get it to stay up, what do you mean? Because even after i glued on my new cloth, it was still flimsy. like if i held if off the ground on one end, the other end would curve down. When i put it back in the car...the first thing i did was put back in the 4 plastic screws in each corner. Then worked from there. i should have taken pictures....would have been a lot easier to explain.
18" Konig Tantrum Rims Yokohama Parada Tires H&R Sport $15 Rear Camber Mod AEM Cold Air Intake ACS Black Molded Carpet Interior Painted Silver/Black Hyperwhite Lights 2 Rockford Fosgate XLC Subs 750 Watt All Digital Amp Reverse Indiglo Gauges NGK Spark Plugs No Name Muffler Tenzo R Seats HVAC Mod
#28336, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 3
The headliner consists of a "foam board" with some spongey frabic glued onto it.
When you peel off the frabic you have to make sure you don't peel into the foam board. The foam board itself is hard, that's what keeps the headliners shape.
#28337, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 4
not to sound like a jackosaurus, but are you speaking from expereince? cause if you buy new headliner material it comes with new foam backing. So if you leave theold foam on, it is gonna be twice as thick when you put it back on. And it might not fit then. imo
18" Konig Tantrum Rims Yokohama Parada Tires H&R Sport $15 Rear Camber Mod AEM Cold Air Intake ACS Black Molded Carpet Interior Painted Silver/Black Hyperwhite Lights 2 Rockford Fosgate XLC Subs 750 Watt All Digital Amp Reverse Indiglo Gauges NGK Spark Plugs No Name Muffler Tenzo R Seats HVAC Mod
#28338, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 5
>not to sound like a jackosaurus, but are you speaking from >expereince? >cause if you buy new headliner material it comes with new >foam backing. So if you leave theold foam on, it is gonna >be twice as thick when you put it back on. And it might not >fit then. imo
Yes, I am speaking from experience. The headliner board is like a foam board (two pieces of thin cardboard sandwiching some foamy substance in the center). On this board you have your headliner material glued on. The headliner material is like some foam backed polyester material (foam on one side, colored frabic on the other side).
So when you yank off the headliner material from the headliner board, you have to make sure you get rid of the foam that's stuck onto the board as well.
#28339, "RE: A little help: 2nd Attempt at" In response to Reply # 6
Couldn't you just glue whatever material you wanted directly onto the colored material. So you wouldn't be tearing it up, I thought that's what people were doing when I first read about the headliner mod. Why couldn't you just do that?
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