I was at the local performance shop (Carboy) and homeboy said he'd hook me up with a stillen front for $400 +80 install. Thats a seperate issue though. My question leading into this is that he said red is one of the most difficult colors to paint. Something about a "3-layer process" color or some bs. So he was saying that painting red on a car is more expensive than most colors....ie., $400 to paint the front end, versus a green/blue car for around $200. Is he for real? You'd think since red is one of the 3 main primary colors in the spectrum that its not that much work to paint or blend, etc when I get my car painted of front end done. I am curious to see what all you paint experts think to this. he's the only one I ever heard say that in my life. Most people say red isnt hard at all, and tht black is actually the hardest color to paint a car with. hmmmmm

The only color I have heard is harder to match up is silver.

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98 ESi
95 GS

It's hard to tell from this picture but when I had my run in with the semi I went EL cheapo on the body shop due to $ reasons. They replaced the messed up front drivers side quarter panel and painted the whole side of the car. I don't know if you can tell from the pic but they don't match at all. I could really care less about looks so it doesn't bother me.



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current status - No 3rd Gear synchro


http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

body shop charged me 400 for paint and install of my front. Prep work and other shit included tho. Paint sux.

So is this guy talking a bunch of bull or what? I think he is, personally. Red has got to be the easiest color to paint. Especially fast420a's and my shade. Hey! Gimme your bumper, beeyatch! hahaha trade ya! Don't we have the same color? I think so, just my photo was taken early in the morning and the color looks off from his.

Anyone know more in detail though about these shades of red? I mean come on, my shade of red they use on thousands of makes of cars. You cant get any more plainer then color of red.


red=pimp

Mine has cracks and bondo too so you don't want it. I do have the same red as you though.

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current status - No 3rd Gear synchro


http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/
www.Fast420A.com

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

it all depends on who is mixing the paint and what kind of paint they are using... my car was half painted about two years ago cause a truck sand blasted my paint cause he didn't tie his load of gravel and dirt down with a tarp.... needless to say i could tell the difference where was painted cause the shades were off... that was the main reason i painted the whole car the same color this time..... if it's an experience guy it won't matter cause he would be able to match it up no matter what... but if you were comparing black to any color than i would say yes cause black is the only color that will match up unless you added pearls or different shit...eclipse804 can harp more on this subject....

2006 WW IX MR
2003 BBY EVO VIII (sold)
256.9WHP & 277.9torque
http://s90395832.onlinehome.us/forum//index.php?sid=a70942a7f65043e6c873e12dcd300692

1998 Eclipse RS --show car--

How much on average does it cost to paint an entire car?... thats with them doing all the labor. I know it varies from shop to shop, and where you're located- but i just want to get a rough estimate of about how much it'll cost me

Evan B
97 GS
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com

Evan B
02 Explorer
97 GS- sold
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com

there is a shop that'll do it down here for like 2,000 entire car, pretty decent quality

turbo8u: "jiggle jiggle then vroom vroom pshhhh"
-Mike Pruett
2gnt member# 976
MOPAR Stage 2
SRTForums.com member #37 (Yeah, I signed up when it first came out, and ended up getting one, cool huh?)
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
- General George Patton (1885-1945)

ask how much it is to paint it black or some other color.. be like Im to kool and I wanna have a different color front end. See what he says. ha
-Dave

2009 Corolla S - waiting until 2012 for my next toy!
*SOLD* 1992 3000GT VR4 - pearl white and 45,6xx miles!
*SOLD* 2007 Subaru Legacy GT sedan
*SOLD* 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - BPU
*SOLD* 97 Eclipse GS Star Stage 2

um, hehe. We kinda went off topic. Could we answer my question though?

Is red one of the hardest colors to paint?

I have no idea if red is but i just saw a commercial on tv that Minekei was painting cars for like $200. I want to get my whole car repainted Black. Black is its original color. I have a hundred paint chips and its really pissin me off. I will do the prep work then take it in for them to paint.

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- 05 Subaru STi
- 97 eclipse gs (289whp w/ 276tq)

To answer your question NO, red is one of the easiest colors to paint in good lighting, but there isnt a body man out there that uses "bad lighting". White...beleive it or not is a very difficult color to paint, because we use such good lighting and most paint booths are white inside its hard to see exactly what you are spraying, its hard to distinguish between flourecent lights, white walls, white overspray and a white body panel.

And as far as matching the color to the rest of your car, if you have the original paint on and the color is not faded (shouldnt be on a 2g) just give the mixer your paint code. Any mixer who has a half assed clue will be able to match it perfectly with the code.

I'm not retarded....I'm a very special boy.



96 ESI - 97 - 99 Projectors, full blitz kit dodge viper race yellow, combat wing, painted altezza's, OZ 17's in scorcher TA's// HRC Stage II, True 3" all the way back. Symborski, CF clutch, AGX adj, spor

sorry Mike, I tend to get off topic. I try to add humor to the board. Really bad humor but its humor.
-Dave

2009 Corolla S - waiting until 2012 for my next toy!
*SOLD* 1992 3000GT VR4 - pearl white and 45,6xx miles!
*SOLD* 2007 Subaru Legacy GT sedan
*SOLD* 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - BPU
*SOLD* 97 Eclipse GS Star Stage 2