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chrysler kidSep-14-04 09:41 AM
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#9773, "blown head, need your opinions"




          

recently my timing belt on the camshaft skiped 19 teeth and fucked my head. i was quoted $2000 from forced performance to completely rebuild my head and install and re seal everything.

i was told by a local dsm mechanic that i trust that if i buy a used head i NEED to have the head resurfaced by a machine shop

what should i do

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RE: blown head, need your opinions, BigBald, Sep-14-04 09:55 AM, #1
RE: blown head, need your opinions, chrysler kid, Sep-14-04 10:02 AM, #2
      RE: blown head, need your opinions, FlyinEsi, Sep-14-04 10:19 AM, #3
           RE: blown head, need your opinions, Pitchblack98, Sep-14-04 10:57 AM, #4
                RE: blown head, need your opinions, PowerEclipses, Sep-14-04 12:12 PM, #5
                     RE: blown head, need your opinions, FlyinEsi, Sep-14-04 12:35 PM, #6
                          RE: blown head, need your opinions, Pitchblack98, Sep-14-04 12:48 PM, #7
                               RE: blown head, need your opinions, chrysler kid, Sep-14-04 05:37 PM, #8
                                    RE: blown head, need your opinions, PowerEclipses, Sep-14-04 05:58 PM, #9
                                         RE: blown head, need your opinions, PowerEclipses, Sep-14-04 06:03 PM, #10
                                         RE: blown head, need your opinions, Hult250R, Sep-14-04 06:30 PM, #11
                                              RE: blown head, need your opinions, HybriDSM, Sep-15-04 05:52 AM, #12
                                                   RE: blown head, need your opinions, SaberKhan, Sep-27-04 03:28 PM, #13

BigBaldSep-14-04 09:55 AM
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#9774, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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to me i would base this decision on the goals of my car. If you plan on doing some serious things with the car, I would go ahead and get it rebuilt by FP. IF not then get the used one.....and you don't always have to get them resurfaced altho it is HIGHLY recommended.

If it were me i get a full rebuild.

PS How did is slip 19 teeth?

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chrysler kidSep-14-04 10:02 AM
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#9775, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Sep-14-04 10:03 AM by chrysler kid



          

tensioner was misaligned, what i thought was fuel cut at high boost was actually one of the camshafts skipping a tooth, right before my car died it stalled, i tried to start it by poppong it back in gear and the crank moved but the cams didnt. my goal for this car is 270whp


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#9776, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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270 whp can be achieved easily enough with a stock head. I and Jerrome can attest to that. If it is much cheaper to buy a used one and have it resurfaced, do it since you aren't going for high HP numbers.

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Pitchblack98Sep-14-04 10:57 AM
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#9777, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Originally posted by FlyinEsi
270 whp can be achieved easily enough with a stock head. I and Jerrome can attest to that. If it is much cheaper to buy a used one and have it resurfaced, do it since you aren't going for high HP numbers.


yup... the gsx im building now had 262 awhp before i tore it apart for a rebuilt on a stock head... so you should be good.

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PowerEclipsesSep-14-04 12:12 PM
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#9778, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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310 AWHP w/o my cams....


Boca Raton, Florida
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FlyinEsiSep-14-04 12:35 PM
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#9779, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Dylan, where did you go to get your AWHP dyno run done?? I want to make a run down to Denver or Ft Collins to get mine dynoed. How much was it, did they tune it as well?

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Pitchblack98Sep-14-04 12:48 PM
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#9780, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Originally posted by FlyinEsi
Dylan, where did you go to get your AWHP dyno run done?? I want to make a run down to Denver or Ft Collins to get mine dynoed. How much was it, did they tune it as well?


I didnt do the dyno run. They guy who had the car before me did. But there is a shop in Parker about 30 mins southeast of Denver that has an AWD dyno. Its called Mac Autosports. There are a lot of ppl around here that are very knowledgeable in the 4g63. Check out www.rmdsm.org for some local help. heres a link to macs website. http://www.macautosport.com/

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chrysler kidSep-14-04 05:37 PM
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#9781, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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its a stock rebuild, im just wondering do i really ned it resurfased?

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#9782, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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do it, that way you know you wont have any problems in the future


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#9783, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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imo.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7921619447&category=33617


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#9784, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Originally posted by PowerEclipses
do it, that way you know you wont have any problems in the future


yup..
Unless u like blown head gaskets

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#9785, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Sep-15-04 05:52 AM by HybriDSM

          

Deck the head. Do it.



It's running again shitheads.

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#9786, "RE: blown head, need your opinions"
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Get the specs for tolerances, get a good straight-edge and a set of feeler gauges. Divide the mating surface into "zones" and check each zone thoroughly in different directions. That, or just get it resurfaced, its cheap while the head is off. Anytime the head is removed the mating surface can distort or warp.


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